DBF……….I agree with JA on this Spirit is Simply one (INTELLECT) It has nothing to do with any gender at all. Why are you trying to force people to believe it is Feminine anyway. Are you trying to start a feminist movement here or in you mind does that give you some sense of power or what?. It simply is not important DBE no one CARES.…[Read more]

Georg……..You are right on this a Soul is a (BODY) with (SPIRIT) IN it. The spirit is simply (INTELLECT) of the MIND. GOD can destory us by simply not giving us a New Body, for when a man dies his thoughts (Parish) he is gone never to return (UNLESS) GOD the Father resurrects a Body and adds Spirit back into it. The same way it was for Jesus,…[Read more]

To All………..Any doctrine that cuts off our (identity) with Jesus is a false teaching and should be completely rejected. Jesus is SON OF MAN Just as we are, of the same Root Stock as we are. God took this stock and nourished it as it grew and grafted us into it and the same nourishment goes to us also we are joined with Jesus By the CHRISTOS…[Read more]

Georg………The branches get it nourishment from the same source as the vine does because it is part of the vine, The nourishment comes from the Water recieved from the earth, it goes up the roots and into the vine and it branches and gives it life. A branch is only an extension of the vine and can equally become a vine just as the vine it self…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 03 2010,11:57)We don't need a reason just as we don't need a reason to explain why the Angel of the LORD existed before Moses.It just is.It is up to us to accept truth humbly without motive.T8………..So you reason “ours is not to reason why , ours is but to do or die” right? The “FAITH” of the Blind, So why don't you follow…[Read more]

MIKE……..So that is just talk rightEph 1:10….> That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together )IN ONE) (ALL THINGS) IN Christ both which are in heaven and which are on earth; even (IN) him: vers 1:11…> In whom also we have obtained and inheritance, being predestined according to he (PURPOSE) OF HIM (GOD) who works…[Read more]

Mike……….Changing the truth of GOD into a LIE is exactly what Trinitarians and Preexistences do. Go Read and study 2 Ths 2…… They create a false GOD or by insisting Jesus created everything then the half wayer's, the Preexistences change it somewhat to say God did it (through) Jesus but they still are robbing God of His Glory which he…[Read more]

Mike ……..What you and the rest of Preexistences do is fail to apply the Old Testament to you dogmas if you did you would have no problem understanding who created everything and (ALONE and BY HIMSELF). You preexistences believe GOD did it (THROUGH) Jesus but not one scripture show Jesus Creating anything , but many say GOD did , that alone…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 03 2010,13:33)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 03 2010,00:58)Mike………Just as well as it (COULD) mean the other meanings offered, SO YOU FORCE THE TEXT TO FIT YOUR DESIRED MEANINGS.Hi Gene,Good!  So now we both know that it COULD mean your choice or mine, right?  Yet you say if I choose my way, I am “forcing the s…[Read more]

Adam……..Amen brother.peace and love to you and yours Adam…………………………gene

SF…………I was speaking to the fact about Jesus being the (First) and he (Last) what it meant, That he was the first from mankind to make it into the kingdom of GOD and the Last will be Just like him. And i have already proved Jesus created nothing because GOD said He did and He did it (ALONE and BY HIMSELF). That alone should be proof…[Read more]

Shimmer………Thanks i do love everyone here even those who disagree with me, I may check out that web site to thanks.peace and love to you and yours……………………………..gene

Mike ……….It means this is the Purpose for all things God created it is what the Goal of GOD was by creating everything as he did. So in Christ Jesus this Goal is completed Jesus represents GOD'S beginning Purpose and His end Purpose for all mankind. That s why Jesus said he was the Beginning and the End. He is the summation of GOD'S Purpose,…[Read more]

Mike………It was reserved for him in the PLAN and WILL of GOD. Jesus Know that, and could have easily said what he said this show is importance and authority in all things. Can't you see it was all along in God's plan to save Mankind and perfect man and Jesus was the (FIRST) TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL from mankind. A foreordained GOAL for HIM. God…[Read more]

Mike………Just as well as it (COULD) mean the other meanings offered, SO YOU FORCE THE TEXT TO FIT YOUR DESIRED MEANINGS. That is my Point , and them you call this (PROOF). this is suppose to (PROVE) Your right? When it flies in the face of other scriptures that show GOD ALONE AND BY HIMSELF CREATED EVERYTHING.. Paul told the Bereans to search…[Read more]

Mike…………Jesus did have Glory afforded him from the very beginning of Creation , because it was God Plan that He would be the (FIRST FROM CREATION) TO RECEIVE THAT GLORY. It was reserved for him in GOD the Father so Jesus could very easily say the gory (I) had with the Father in the Beginning before the world was. That glory was to gain…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2010,10:52)Quote (martian @ Aug. 31 2010,01:11)HERE HE COMES TO SAVE THE DAY — THAT MEANS THAT MONKEY TIME IS ON THE WAY……Good one Martian…….I'm laughing on the inside.   Would you care to actually deal with the words that are in the scripture?  It says:Who BEGINNING in the form of God…….EMPTIED H…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 01 2010,13:17)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 01 2010,11:05)Then when you are cornered by saying everything was created (BY) Jesus you again change scripture to say through Jesus, So is it (through, by, or for) or all three word work, take you pick right.Gene,In the last part of Col 1:16, it says TWO words.  They can't both…[Read more]

Mike………..But when Scripture is given you contradict them. God said he created everything (alone) AND by (himself), BUT you say no Jesus Created these things. So Don't give us this you go by Scripture only stuff brother, Now you say GOD does things without reason and we can not understand His reasons for things, that there is not logic…[Read more]

Shimmer………..God is not a loser he will eventually save (ALL) his creation. Why? < Because GOD is not (WILLING) that any Parish. don't let the fear mongers say you in your Faith and Trust in the Living GOD, who by (HIS) Power can Change anyone . Free Willers hate the thought of that because they trust in themselves that through there OWN…[Read more]