EDJ………..So Now we have a Jesus who is 50% man and 50% God Right. Funny Jesus said “FOR THOU ARE THE (ONLY) TRUE GOD. He did not say he was a Half GOD anywhere that i know of. Jesus was 100% Human and was (NOT) a Son of GOD no more then we are, Until he recieved the Holy Spirit at the Jordan river. (this day I have begotten you) not some…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 09 2010,11:17)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2010,04:32)They have done the same butchery with Col.1:16-7,they 'falsely' attribute these verses to Jesus as well!Hi Ed,Col 1:15 is definitely about Jesus, right?  And 16 and 17 are about “someone”, then verse 18 starts off with the word “AND”……and 18 is also definitely about…[Read more]

MIke……….. Paul was not talking out of the blue as you assume he was, The reason God said “thy throne O God is an everlasting throne” is because it is (GOD'S SEVEN SPIRITS) that are on the head of Lamb WITH POWER, Shown in Revelations, that is the builder of that throne. Like Jesus said the Father is (IN) Me and (HE) does the works> So if…[Read more]

SF………….Yes it does matter, all persons shall be saved (YET AS BY FIRE) OR or better put “yet he shall be saved by Fire (judgement)”. I do believe ultimately all will be saved , but that does not negate Gods Judgements to refine and cause him or her to repent. Every sin will recieve its JUST Recompense> IMOpeace and…[Read more]

Mike………..You say we are speculating about Jesus not preexistence and Not creating everything, But is is You and the Preexistences who are the big Speculators Here, We at least employ LOGIC to our Reasonings, while you use (MYSTERY RELIGIONS) to achieve your false assumptions. You reject the Trinity but hold on to Preexistences , you have…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2010,14:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2010,13:58)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 07 2010,14:31)because you say every thing was created (BY) Jesus, and then when that didn't work you changed it to (through)Is that what REALLY happened Gene?  Or have I already explained that I was quoting a translation that used “by”?  Haven't I a…[Read more]

To All…………….Meant to say in the above post the the word BEFORE YOU implys that they also will eventually go into the Kingdom also. IMOpeace and Love to you all……………………………gene

To ALL……………..Consider this….. Mat21: 31 …> Whether of them twain did the will of his Father? they said unto him , the first, Jesus said unto them, Verily (truly) I say unto you, (the chief Priest and Elders ) That the publicans and the HARLOTS (GO INTO) THE KINGDOM OF GOD (BEFORE) YOU. We need to be careful who we call evil and…[Read more]

Terricca………….It also says….> “If YOU (BEING) Evil know how to give good gifts unto your childern, how much more will God give His Spirit to them that ask”. Maybe you should look at the intent of YOUR Heart More instead of foaming out accusations and condemnations on others. That would be a good start for you. We all know GOD will Judge…[Read more]

Georg……….How do you know if what it means is the Father YHWH and His Seven Spirits which compose One GOD. That go out and does all of GOD bidding through out the Whole earth. What makes you so sure it means Jesus , that is an assumption on your and All Preexistences and Trinitarians Part. IMOpeace and love to you and Irene……………………gene

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 06 2010,10:21)[LOL THE SPIRIT? ARE YOU SERIOUS! ITS CHRIST SPEAKING!! look what its saying as a intro to each letter to the church! its the son of Man talking to the Church! the Son of Man that was in between the candle sticks.To All…………. Hear what the Spirit is SayingRev 2:7 ….> He that has and ear let him…[Read more]

Mike…………God was revealing it to Him while he was on earth, GOD the father was (IN) HIM , ” believe you not that the Father is (IN) me”. Also notice it say He was a decedent of Abraham, “For assuredly he does not give help to angles, but to the (DECEDENTS) OF ABRAHAM”. So how could Jesus exist as a (Being) before Abraham and also be His…[Read more]

EDJ………..Your argument is with Jesus not Me it was He who Said He was the Root and Offspring of David not ME. In fact he said it twice in Revelations, so go there and deal with it there.If you will notice Jessu never said He was (NOT) a Son of DAVID now that you have added, Jesus ask (HOW) is He Davids Son.If you can understand this the Glory…[Read more]

EDJ……….The very word (WILL) Means an (INFLUENCE) or it simply cannot be a WILL at all. A WILL that is FREE is not a WILL at all. Because not Will Exists in a state of Being FREE. or it simply would not be a will at all. You are confusing Our (LIBERTY) to exercise our (INFLUENCED) WILLS and Us having a “FREE WILL” operating (IN US)> That…[Read more]

MIke ……….Quite twisting Scriptures, it says I (Jesus) Am the ROOT (AND) OFFSPRING of DAVID. Evidently you do not know what the word (OF) means, it Means (FROM) . Jesus is plainly saying He is from the same Roots and Offspring of DAVID. If i said I am Gene of California , would you think i meant i am Gene who California is From. Come on Mike…[Read more]

EDJ………Why Lie EDJ, you had a strong (DESIRE) influencing you to Post that, otherwise you would not have posted it. That post was YOUR (influenced) (WILL), nothing FREE About It. Your miss understanding of what Paul was saying is also obvious to anyone who has the understanding. Paul was saying He was FREE from all (PEOPLE) and then He…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2010,11:57)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 07 2010,02:53)Paul was not talking about a (PRE earth) existence of Jesus but HIS (Earthly) existences , Jesus had while on earth the (NATURE) of GOD , he was filled with the HOLY Spirit of GOD He recieve at the Jordan river, He had it without measure we are told.Very good…[Read more]

Mike………….You are still failing to understand what time period Paul was talking about was it Before His earthly existence or Before that . The way I read it Paul's was talking about his (earthly) existence, how he existed here on earth. Show us you proof Paul's was talking about his prior earth existence. Jesus Had the Nature of GOD while…[Read more]

David………The word Elohim simply means POWER in it simplest form. The First Pictorial word in Hebrew for God was the Head of an OX with a Staff along side it. The OX represented Strength or POWER, the Staff was what The leaned on for Support . Put it together it means the POWER they TRUSTED and Leaned ON. “HEAR O ISREAL THE YHWH (he who…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2010,11:16)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 07 2010,02:21)MIke……….Your leaving off AGAIN (BY MYSELF). Why is that Mike? Is it because it eliminates anyone else being there with him.Gene,Doesn't the word “alone” already mean “by myself”?  Doesn't “by myself” already mean “alone”?Just out of curiosity Gene, how do you…[Read more]