• Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Mike………..The root is describing his start He (Jesus) is from the Roots of David a Jew, but he is also the decedent of DAVID. He then is the root (AND) offspring of DAVID (BOTH) . What is so hard to understand about that, David did not get his start from Jesus but from the Roots of the Jews the same roots of David. Anyway then if he is the…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Georg………..True that day will comes and Has for some already like Sodom and Gomorrah , but they are still raised and Judged again and will be saved because they will recieve more mercy then those that existed at the time of Jesus. All pride and Wickedness will be Destroyed By Fire (intense Judgements of GOD)> And it will burn away the Dross…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 11 months ago

    EDJ…………Yes (NOW) being (MADE) FREE from OUR Captivated WILL We are Led into Captivity BY the WILL OF GOD this is GOD'S WILL and is (NOT) OUR Will. Because we have Put (OUR) WILL to DEATH by the power of GOD'S Spirit, Paul plainly said the Carnal MIND is an enemy to GOD (NOT) Subject to GOD neither indeed (CAN BE)> So two Wills exist…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 11 months ago

    EDJ……..They chose to serve Man not God. Only those who had a Different Spirit on them chose God. Jesus plainly said “NO MAN(CAN) COME UNTO ME UNLESS GOD DRAW HIM” Well so much for a WILL that Is FREE of (INFLUENCE) Right and to lie and say you sepak from a Free will is false , You speak fro an (INFLUENCED) WILL hardly FREE at all. You follow…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Terricca………….I did show them you in ability to read it is your problem not ours. Mike read and understood the scriptures i posted. And I see you still are doing what YOUR Farther Does to “accuse the brethren”. That seem to fit you perfectly it appears.gene

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Terricca………Why Change words in Rev 21:8………It say the fearful and unbelieving < Not "the coward, the unbelieving" as you insert , do you change scripture because you yourself preach a fear mongering religion. You need to read Rev 22:19, that would apply to you changing the text to fit you dogmas. IMOgene

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Gerog…….The word used there is Spirit not Soul (check it our in a concordance), but even if you say Soul it still is the (Body and Spirit) (BOTH) being discussed. And even If GOD can destory (BOTH) Which he can does not mean He is Going to now Does it. That is an assumption on your part. GOD can also Change a persons Heart…..> “I will take…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    EDJ…………No bible verse says anyone (PREEXISTED) that i know of except God himself, SO to Say one is foreknown or even foreordained is not saying they were alive or preexisted as a Being, and even if you had a MODEL that still is (NOT) the REAL House right so we can say the (REAL) House did not exist until it existed. We can say the same…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Mike……..What exactly is the FORM of GOD? Jesus did not exist in the FORM of GOD , but in the NATURE of GOD and Paul was not talking about a Pre-earth existence but when he was ON EARTH, He EXISTED ON EARTH With the NATURE of GOD, Just like All who have GOD'S Spirit in them Do. I John 4:17……..> Herein is our love made perfect, that we may…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2010,13:38)To Ed J I say, “Thank you for actually attempting to answer my question DIRECTLY”.  But to Gene, “Stop just agreeing with others and answer the questions yourself.”Mike……..What is wrong with agreeing with someone when you believe what he says on a Subject is right?, if you would do that once in a while…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    EDJ……….I agree preexistence is bible truth , But the question is it a PLANNED PURPOSE, or a Past existence is the question that we are addressing here. Mike and other Preexistences believe the Jesus Existed as a Real (Being of some Kind) But i believe He did Not exist but only in the Plan and Purpose of GOD. No one has given any Past…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Terricca……..I am at least honest to say it is my opinions , an i have and do quite many scriptures . To support those opinions, But you on the other hand are going through the bible and post scriptures and cast them on others that you yourself are the worst offender of Here. Those scripture you quote describe you more than any one here as…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Shimmer…………..I have had many, many, many, prayers answered by Just asking Him directly. But i also know it is not wrong to ask in Jesus name either. But as You and JA have Said (TRUE FAITH) is what counts and TRUE FAITH Demands COURAGE and BOLDNESS. WE must go boldly unto the Throne of Grace to find Help in our times of Need. Some of the…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2010,15:28)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 10 2010,11:14)allscriptures is only secondary to there point of view,they argue on words who would not help any one in the world today or the one to come,the expression of God will is done trough our love for him,because then God can give all things he as promised to give to his…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Terricca………..Again i see your accusing Mouth just can't quite accusing people , As i said before Satan is the Accuser of the Brethern. seems you fit that more than any here. If you have a commit on what topic is being discussed that is fine but you go beyond that and start to accuse people as if you even remotely begin to know them or there…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 11 months ago

    EDJ………..If you say your not (INFLUENCED) in what you do you are simply (BLIND) or Just lying one or the other. A Will can not exist without (influence) No such thing. that is Why to say “FREE WILL” is an OXYMORON. No such thing exist or it simply would not be a WILL the very word WILL Means It is derived from (INFLUENCED) thoughts. Doesn't…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Mike…………..You say “Lets say the raising of Lasuras is the Poit of Jesus life when He (could) have been in the (nature) of GOD.You don't get it , Jesus recieved the Nature of GOD at the Jordan River BY the Holy Spirit that was In him. He had it every since that time. He was not born with It He (received that nature) as all who Have GOD…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Mike……….. Mike here is your answer …..>Why complicate it Jesus was (BORN) 100% HUMAN , who is saying there is any different we were all (MADE) partakers of the Flesh Just as He was, what is you problem with that? We all Preexisted in the Plan and Will of GOD before the world ever begin. Why the big push to (SEPARATE) JESUS FROM OUR…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Mike…………Notice what it says…..> the lion of the tribe (of) Judah , (which is) the Root of DAVID. Get it Mike? Jesus is from that Root and also the decedent of David who is also from that ROOT. peace and love to you and yours brother……………………………………..gene

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2010,13:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 09 2010,11:17)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2010,04:32)They have done the same butchery with Col.1:16-7,they 'falsely' attribute these verses to Jesus as well!Hi Ed,Col 1:15 is definitely about Jesus, right?  And 16 and 17 are about “someone”, then verse 18 starts off with the word “AND”……and…[Read more]

  • Load More

© 1999 - 2026 Heaven Net

Log in with your credentials

or    

Forgot your details?

Create Account