EDJ………..Sorry for that , Meant SF. I am getting quite old and some times my thinking is not as good as it used to be. Sorry for the mistake. If i had back my posting rights i could change it. But thanks to T8 i don't.peace and love………………………………..gene

Quote (martian @ Aug. 09 2010,09:33)Some have shown disdain for the methods by which I interpret scripture. To show I am not alone I give you this author which says the same as me.http://www.intergate.com/~jcordaro/study_Bible.htmlRules of Interpretation In addition to the seven basic guidelines above, there are nine basic rules of…[Read more]

Irene……….So we interpret Scripture the way we want it. So you see the word Jesus there right, that is what you see?, I see the word (US) and your (assuming) it is Jesus being talked about. Just as I see the Word (WORD) in John 1:1, but your see the Word Jesus there and you say (WE) are the ones interpreting scripture the way (WE) want to.…[Read more]

Mike……….We are all human beings Just like Jesus was and still is. “WHEN THE (SON OF MAN) come will he find faith on the earth?”. Yes Jesus is a HUMAN BEING He always WAS a HUMAN BEING, and still is one. I have no argument with the word Anthropos. He was made a partaker of the human race so were we, all by ONE GOD. How does that separate our…[Read more]

Mike………..Roots of Jesus is the Same ROOTS OF KING DAVID Jesus is from the Same Roots of DAVID and is also the offspring of DAVID. Why would it Jesus say I am the (ROOT AND OFFSPRING) (OF) David. He is identifying himself with King David. There is no double meaning there. And if it were it still would not mean Jesus was being intended there…[Read more]

EDJ……….I can have an opinion just like everyone else can , By thinking , and this thinking (forms my and your WILL) Just as GOD thinking Forms His WILL also. No one is arguing that we don't have WILLS we all HAVE Have them, The question is are they “FREE” WILLS that is to say they are FREE of (ANY) Influences, That (CAUSE) us to WILL what…[Read more]

EDJ…………..Why start lying,  me nor Chosenone have never said or even implied its OK to Keep SINNING that is what maybe in your heart to do. Why should you accuse us of that?. You do realize to Lie is a sin also , “you shall not bear false witness”. IMOpeace and love………………………gene

Mike……..Do you know what the Word (OF) Means I have ask you this before. OF is the Same as FROM it identifies the source. I gave you an example remember, Gene of California that is my roots of identity it is my roots where i reside or coming from. Of or From are interchangeable in meaning. The Spirit OF GOD is the Spirit FROM GOD right? Why…[Read more]

MIke……..John was (exactly) like us and any other Human being as well as Jesus also. GOD can give anyone He so choses anything He desires to. that Does not make that person any better then anyone else nor makes Him any different then we are. Can't you see how screwed up your thinking is becoming? Now your reasoning that John was really not like…[Read more]

EDJ………It was the SPIRIT (IN) them that Gave them the Cause to CHOSES GOD'S Way Just as it is today, FOR HE (GOD) WORKS IN US (BOTH) TO WILL AND DO OF HIS GOOD PLEASURE. WHERE DO YOU SEE GOD'S “FREE” WILL AT THERE. The concept of a WILL being “FREE” is the very root of sin it self it was the very cause of Adams and Eves Falling in the first…[Read more]

JA………Quite simple read Genesis 1 and allow common sense to go to work , Here is some Help IF God said Let there be light He must have preexisted right?, In John 1:1 we read in (the)( Definite Article there implies the beginning of (all) thing created), beginning was GOD right, again common sense would demand he preexisted then right?…[Read more]

Mike………so now you are saying God was not (IN) Him because He emptied out all of that. Surely you Joke, Jesus recieved God's Nature (Holy Spirit) Just as we Do from the anointing he recieved at the Jordan river and He (NEVER) Emptied Himself of that anointing He is THE ANOINTED SON OF GOD. Sorry you believe he emptied himself of that. You…[Read more]

Irene……….Don;t you see how you are destroying the very work of Jesus and God the Father, by making Jesus different then yourself. How is it you think God was dealing with a preexisting Angel and teaching Him and Perfecting Him to be obedient. Would a preexisting Angle or demigod of some kind need to learn that, wouldn't he have already…[Read more]

Georg…………Where did Chosenone ever say He enjoyed Sin, You are making sin out as something enjoyable not him. It seem your heart craves sin. and the FEAR in you keeps it suppressed. If this is the case you still are under the LAW and have not come to See and (really) hate sin in your and anyones life. What so enjoyable of watching families…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 11 2010,05:37)Gene and Pierre!  It seems that you both are accusing each other of wrong doing.  Is it not wise just to go by Scriptures and stop the personal attack? Even though there are Scriptures like Math. 15:9 do so only to some that teach other doctrines that are not according to Scriptures….. only go by S…[Read more]

T8…….Why are you not allowing us editing rights , we have never used them wrongly Here, I just miss posted again and was not able to correct it. Please get this corrected. Thanks……….gene

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 12 2010,04:06)This is a crazy thread: Gene, can you really believe what you just wrote?jesus “emptied himself of…” what at the Jordan – where does Scripture say that. Surely it said the Holy Spirit alighted on him like a Dove. Howis that “Emptying” – is that “Filling”?And wasn't he “Man” before going to the River…[Read more]

Mike……….So in YOUR mind Jesus was where DAVID Came From Right , Please explain this to us then. I THOUGHT JESUS WAS A DECEDENT OF David from the the same Root Stock of DAVID so show how your theory works them. Or is this just another MYSTERY RELIGION your Pushing. Please give us clarity not speculations. I know the holy Spirit was in David…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2010,02:42)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 11 2010,04:12)Mike……..What exactly is the FORM of GOD? Jesus did not exist in the FORM of GOD ,  but in the NATURE of GOD and Paul was not talking about a Pre-earth existence but when he was ON EARTH, HE EXISTED ON EARTH With the  NATURE of GOD, Just like All who have GOD'S S…[Read more]

Mike…………Just as you say a Monkey is not (EXACTLY) like Us If fact it has nothing to do with Us , so why should i or anyone else for that matter compare ourselves with a monkey for any reason at all. You preexistences do the same with Jesus You separated Him from our (exact) likeness, and then say we need to be (EXACTLY) like HIM. Then…[Read more]