Proclaimer…….Question remains to all of us,   who is our “first love ” supposed to be?

The perfect Trinitarian question,  but no Trinitarians here seem able to respond to it. Why is that?  , could it be they have made Jesus their “first love”?, In stead of God the Father?
Rev 2:4   The letter to the church at Ephesus ,   Pretty well explains t…[Read more]

Adam……Jesus never said that,  it was said by his Apostle Paul.
Rom 14:10

Yes Jesus was talking to his present audience , “about the future judgement”.  Not about the present time he spoke it.

You not seeing Jesus as a “prophet”,   As Moses said he was to be. Your using what he said as meaning at that time , not understanding that Jesus wa…[Read more]

Adam…..what does this mean to you,   We shall all stand before the Judgement seat of Christ?   When does that Judgement take place, is it not after he returns and has established the Kingdom on this earth.   “There shall be weeping and nashing of teeth. ”  There is a future final Judgement for all Adam.

peace and love to you and yours………gene

Miia……..The Trinity is a complete false teaching,  what Proclaimer posted is right concerning it.

peace and love to you and yours……..gene

Adam…….Jesus was not talking about the Jews,  he was talking about the lost sheep of the house of Israel,  which were scattered all over the world at the time Jesus said that,   The Jew were not even considered as part of the nation of ‘Israel’ at the time Jesus spoke those words,  Israel was already taken and scattered by the Ancient Assyrians .…[Read more]

Adam……He is wrong regarding ,  his understanding of this generation being the generation of That time of Jesus’ time when he was here on the earth,   He was speaking about that Generation,  when those Celestria events started to take place, that was the generation that wold not pass till all those things take place.Including his return .  [Read more]

Berean……. Again you ignored my question to you.  Who is your ‘FIRST LOVE’  , you can’t answer that can you?.  That is what the TRINITY teachings do to you people,  it changes who your, “FIRST LOVE”,   “IS”  because it brings the “MAN” Jesus   To the same level as God the father .

Because you are not able to answer that simple question, were do…[Read more]

Berean……Just as I thought , you simply don’t know which one we should have as the Our “first love” for,  but, Jesus knew. 

Mark 12: 30,  and Rev 2:4 .

You say you believe Jesus, but do you really ?

By the way it was , GOD the Father,   Who offered up “his” son ,  it was not the Son  who did it.  The Son who “LOVED” and trusted in the Father s…[Read more]

Berean,   Again you dodged my question ,  I ask you who is your “FIRST”, LOVE,  why can’t you  simply answer that question?  It really shouldn’t be that hard for any “true” Christian to answer  right?

peace and love to you and yours………..gene

Proclaimer……His name is, “CALLED” , the word of God,  why because he “tells us ”  what God the father tells him to tell us, as a “mediator” would, that in no way makes him the “WORD OF GOD”  “HIMSELF.” ,  your being just like,  Berean and Carmel, and LU, and the rest of those who believe Jesus “preexisted ” his birth on this earth.
Your caught up…[Read more]

Berean……O really,  who do you love, “the most”,    Is it Jesus or God the father?  Please don’t blame me if you don’t know the difference .

Read what Jesus said,  after all you say you believe him,  right?

Mar 12:30,   and   Rev 2:4  ,  where do you fit in at , Mr. Berean ?

Proclaimer ……..Still backwards   It is the son, that reveals to us “the Father”.
John 6;47…..” Not that any man has seen the Father,  “save” he which is of God, he has seen (discerned)  the Father.

You people sound like you have lost you “first” love” , or replaced  it  with Jesus, or simply never had it.  I am not saying we should not love Jesus…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….Have you ever thought how bold you are?  You take God the Fathers         ” own words”,  away from him, and given them to Jesus , that “is” stealing Glory  from God.  It’s one thing to say Jesus delivered God the Fathers words to us, (as a mediator would)  and quite another to say “he “IS” the word of God “himself” , big difference .…[Read more]

Mike…..All things came from heaven, that exists on this earth even us.  Jesus was even set from Heaven, and was the one who came to us from God, that was his  destiny before he ever existed, even we are too. Is that not where the throng of God is.  Yes Jesus was the bread of Life “sent”  from heaven.  Jesus said even his disciples  were from ab…[Read more]

Mike……….Jesus was not telling them they were Gods ,   He meant that in a “possessive” sense. They and we are God’s  children  his son’s and daughters ,  and therefore we all “BELONG”, to him.  Otherwise that would make Jesus a liar, when he said this.

“this is eternal life, that they might know “YOU” the “ONLY” TRUE GOD.”..

So you either believ…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..I see you still are not understanding the Greek word ( dia) correctly,  it has your head still screwed up,  like most trinitarians also.  Your inability to not understand the absolute “SOVEREIGNTY”  OF GOD THE FATHER,  is evident and apparent by what you wrote.   Unfortunately for you, true understanding of scripture, disagrees…[Read more]

TO all………God the Father created not a thing “through” or “by” anyone,  he did it “all”  for his own purposes and for his own reasons, and by his own power. That includes everything that exists,  both now and in the future .

God the Father takes full responsibility for , everything that exists,  this is shown by him offering up of his lamb, with…[Read more]

Mike……the first “born” Son also said,  “God is “our” father too.”
the word “born” always means a ” birth” , “process” ,  followed by being “begetting”.
Seems I can say the exact same thing Jesus said about my Heavenly Father.

Jesus was first begotten by a the sperm of king David planted in Mary his mother womb ,  the he was again begotte…[Read more]

Miia……if you really understood how those vaccines work to train our existing immune  systems to attack those “live”  viruses , I believe you would get them Sis.   They do not vaccinate you with “live viruses”  . The vaccine is made up of designed molecules that trains our immune systems to attack those specific Molecules , and when that happens…[Read more]

To all…….Scripture say , sin entered in this world by “MAN” , and by “a MAN”   it was “atoned  for.”  No where does it say , by a being “morphed” into a human body was our sins atoned for.
Jesus sure didn’t think he ever existed a real being until he was born on this earth,  He clearly said He was the root and offspring of David. All the Old Tes…[Read more]