Berean……O really,  who do you love, “the most”,    Is it Jesus or God the father?  Please don’t blame me if you don’t know the difference .

Read what Jesus said,  after all you say you believe him,  right?

Mar 12:30,   and   Rev 2:4  ,  where do you fit in at , Mr. Berean ?

Proclaimer ……..Still backwards   It is the son, that reveals to us “the Father”.
John 6;47…..” Not that any man has seen the Father,  “save” he which is of God, he has seen (discerned)  the Father.

You people sound like you have lost you “first” love” , or replaced  it  with Jesus, or simply never had it.  I am not saying we should not love Jesus…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….Have you ever thought how bold you are?  You take God the Fathers         ” own words”,  away from him, and given them to Jesus , that “is” stealing Glory  from God.  It’s one thing to say Jesus delivered God the Fathers words to us, (as a mediator would)  and quite another to say “he “IS” the word of God “himself” , big difference .…[Read more]

Mike…..All things came from heaven, that exists on this earth even us.  Jesus was even set from Heaven, and was the one who came to us from God, that was his  destiny before he ever existed, even we are too. Is that not where the throng of God is.  Yes Jesus was the bread of Life “sent”  from heaven.  Jesus said even his disciples  were from ab…[Read more]

Mike……….Jesus was not telling them they were Gods ,   He meant that in a “possessive” sense. They and we are God’s  children  his son’s and daughters ,  and therefore we all “BELONG”, to him.  Otherwise that would make Jesus a liar, when he said this.

“this is eternal life, that they might know “YOU” the “ONLY” TRUE GOD.”..

So you either believ…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..I see you still are not understanding the Greek word ( dia) correctly,  it has your head still screwed up,  like most trinitarians also.  Your inability to not understand the absolute “SOVEREIGNTY”  OF GOD THE FATHER,  is evident and apparent by what you wrote.   Unfortunately for you, true understanding of scripture, disagrees…[Read more]

TO all………God the Father created not a thing “through” or “by” anyone,  he did it “all”  for his own purposes and for his own reasons, and by his own power. That includes everything that exists,  both now and in the future .

God the Father takes full responsibility for , everything that exists,  this is shown by him offering up of his lamb, with…[Read more]

Mike……the first “born” Son also said,  “God is “our” father too.”
the word “born” always means a ” birth” , “process” ,  followed by being “begetting”.
Seems I can say the exact same thing Jesus said about my Heavenly Father.

Jesus was first begotten by a the sperm of king David planted in Mary his mother womb ,  the he was again begotte…[Read more]

Miia……if you really understood how those vaccines work to train our existing immune  systems to attack those “live”  viruses , I believe you would get them Sis.   They do not vaccinate you with “live viruses”  . The vaccine is made up of designed molecules that trains our immune systems to attack those specific Molecules , and when that happens…[Read more]

To all…….Scripture say , sin entered in this world by “MAN” , and by “a MAN”   it was “atoned  for.”  No where does it say , by a being “morphed” into a human body was our sins atoned for.
Jesus sure didn’t think he ever existed a real being until he was born on this earth,  He clearly said He was the root and offspring of David. All the Old Tes…[Read more]

Miia……..The Doctrine of the Trinity,  is a false teaching,  Please don’t get caught up in that  Sis.

peace and love to you and yours ………..gene

Proclaimer……..good post,  as it was then, so it is now brother.

peace and love to you and yours………gene

Miia…………………Proverbs 17:22…………A merry heart does good “like a medicine” , 

why would Medicine be compared to a merry heart,  if the were evil?

peace and love to you and yours……….gene

Proclaimer….Freewiller’s are their own God. They actually believe their “own” choices saves them.   But they can’t explain how or why it says ,  the chosen were saved before they were ever born.  (From the foundations of the world),  were does that fit into a “freewill”  existence they,  “think” they live in?

Tell us how that works in  your so…[Read more]

Adam……..but you see Jesus is involved in the human creation, he is God perfection of his (God) the Father’s  “human” creation.   Jesus is the ultimate Goal for us all. He is what God the Father had in mind, before he ever created the earth and the things that are in it.  You see that is the point of the word (dia) , they falsely interpret…[Read more]

Adam……yes it certainly can ,  everyone here believes he or she is right, and are wrong in many things.  Proclaimer, put others down who disagrees with him,  and this is a man who believes all things were made through and by Jesus,  according him , but he doesn’t  even know , who or what Jesus was before his birth on this earth,  haven’t…[Read more]

Adam…..You see when I read what Jesus himself said as written in our New Testament scriptures, I don’t see where any of those original writers, said made false statements,  just those who have falsely interpret them  do.  If you properly  read what they wrote , in the right context , they fit the Old Testament,  perfectly.  IMO

Adam, seek thou…[Read more]

Proclaimer..

He is not God himself,  but is Devine ………..so can we receive the Devine nature.

He is not created,  but was man….he was created and born, exactly the same way we are

He is Son of God……..according to Jesus we are also, sons of God

The word of God…….Not according to what Jesus said about ‘his’ words.

Born of God …………So are we

on…[Read more]

Proclaimer…… God ‘s prophesied word became true , it was the flesh man Jesus Christ.

God and his word,  is one and the same thing , just as our words and us are the same thing.  Your belief that God’s word became some one different then God is not true.

A word, any word , is never flesh,  a word can only come to be true or not true , the prophe…[Read more]

To all……. if you don’t understand , that this saying, “in  the ‘image’ of God created he them”, applies “equally ” to all of humanity, exactly as it does the “man” Jesus Christ. Then you haven’t even begun to know the truth yet.  Most view of him is the same as most all fallen Christianity, they move, Jesus  Christ away from their own exact identi…[Read more]