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    Mike……..the context is not made clear by the last word brother it is made clear by the complete chapter zeroing in on just one word is a mistake Mike it cam get you into all kinds of wrong understandings in scriptures. Try to produce you logic from the complete text not just one word Brother .peace and love ……………………………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 11 months ago

    T8………No I am not free to Sin because the Spirit (causes me to think differently) I would never be “FREE” to SIN” that would go against my New Nature i recieved from GOD, It Chooses by GRACE (influencing on the Heart by GOD) to chose different. “FOR HE (GOD) WORKS (IN) ME TO BOTH (WILL) AND DO OF HOS GOOD PLEASURE> I am led captive by a new…[Read more]

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    MIke……….So to you a root is the beginning (right), you are wrong the Seed is the Beginning and then comes the roots and then the trunk and then the branches and then the leaves and then the fruit. So what was the roots of Jesus and David it was Jessie. When Jesus addressed his root and Offspring was of (FROM) DAVID. He is Identifying with…[Read more]

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    Kerwin…………If it is a (VOLUNTARY) ACT then when why did LORD say (I) will (take out of you) the Stony Heart and (GIVE YOU) a Heart of Flesh. I appears that GOD is the ONE Changing Us not ourselves, right? peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

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    Quote (Baker @ Sep. 16 2010,08:26)Gene!  How come you did not answer my question in John 17:5 tread???? And BTW here too…..No Human being will ever see Jehovah God and Jesus is a Spirit Being now, which He was before the world was also….Phil. 2:6 tells us that He was in  the form of God and verse 7 says that He made Himself like a Servant.   Not…[Read more]

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    Mike………..Right the nature of GOD came after he was a HUMAN Being with a HUMAN Nature, at the Jordan river and He was lead away into the wilderness and Humbles himself in obedience to GOD as he did throughout his whole ministry. I have show you where he could have used that to rob GOD with the resurrection of Lazarus . But you failed to…[Read more]

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    barely………..AMEN, AMEN , AMEN, brother. If we could all apply those rules to our understanding we could all grow in the faith. I noticed When get caught up in single words proofing it tends to cause me to lose the context and i have to stop and rethink things, i notice Mike does this a lot he zero in on one word and tries to draw us into it,…[Read more]

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    Terricca………..Point (IS) let GOD DO THE JUDGING. It is one thing to disagree with a persons post and quite another to personally attack his character as you do at times. Remember when Jesus said He (HATED) the (DEEDS) of the Nicholatians , but He did not say he Hated them , We are told to Judge or condemn nothing before the time. God is able…[Read more]

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    Shimmer…………………That was a good article posted by the Rabbi, i also agree with it. The Lord our GOD is the (ONLY) one in control of (ALL) things. There is no real Satan being who is in competition with GOD. Exercising his own Power over people and their lives at his own will, jumping in and out of people and taking them over at will.…[Read more]

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    Jodi…………..Good to see you back posting sis, hope everything is going good for you and yours. I agree with you posts on Satan and Devils, there is a huge misconception concerning this subject IMO.peace and love to you and yours Jodi……………………….gene

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    Terricca………..Again you are not my JUDGE LITTLE MAN and never will be. I have only one who will judge Me. Your personal accusation of me and others only show are where your heart really is. IMOpeace and love………………………gene

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    Mike…………..Martian is right you seem so indoctrinated that you can't even begin to see the errors in the doctrine of Preexistence of Jesus as some kind of Being what by the way you have never exactly what the Being was, was it and Angle , a demigod , a God, a archangel, an invisible creature of some kind, perhaps he was Michale the…[Read more]

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    Mike……….Don't kid yourself You Preexistence are the same as Trinitarians , both of you are Separation-est and remove Jesus form our exact identity. To say you don't would be a lie brother. IMOpeace and love to you and yours……………………………gene

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    Mike………Why can't you get it, when Paul was referencing Jesus' preexistence, he was talking about Jesus preexistence on EARTH before he died and was resurrected and went to heaven. But you preexistences stretch out what Paul was saying to as you suppose a pre-earth existence. That was not what Paul was talking about. He was talking about HIS…[Read more]

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    Mike……….I don't like beginning , I like as the meaning say (come into Existence) Jesus was a Human who came into existence with the nature of GOD (At the Jordan river) when he recieved the Holy Spirit of GOD. The same as WE do when we recieve GOD'S Spirit. But don't you see you make a difference between Jesus and Us right there. By saying…[Read more]

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    Mike…….. This is my answer to you , Notice please. Eph 3:19……And to know the love of Christ, which passes Knowledge, that you might be filled with (ALL) the (FULLNESS) of GOD.Eph 4:13….> Till we (ALL) come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, UNTO A (PERFECT MAN), UNTO THE MEASURE OF THE STATURE OF THE…[Read more]

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    Mike ………A did not add that i alway said that Jesus did not (PREEXIST) his berth on earth and (ANY Kind of BEING). I do not agree with what you preexistencs and Trinitarians say at all>peace and love………………………..gene

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    EDJ……….Right on, it is when people try to make a person GODS WORDS, that is the big deception Here.peace and love…………………….gene

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2010,14:39)Hi Gene,Once again, thank you for directly answering my question.  If you continue to answer, we can continue to discuss. :) You said:Quote Jesus is called the word of God in Revelation because He Speaks GODS WORDS to US, but that does NOT make HIM The WORDS He spoke to us.I agree completely.  Now if Jesus is c…[Read more]

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    Shimmer ……….You are right Jesus was (NOT) created He was BORN by Mary on earth, and He is the (FIRST)(BORN) of all the creation to become a son of GOD. He is also the (ONLY) One (so far) to be raised from the dead and given eternal life from the Human race. Jesus (only existed) in the Plan and Will of GOD from the Foundations of the Earth ,…[Read more]

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