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    EDJ……….So we are told Jesus preexisted his life on earth so what was His Percentages then, and what is his percentages (NOW) and while you are at it , Tell us what percent of (What) was ADAM and EVE then.EdJ why not say what the Catholics say he was 100% GOD or Angle and 100% HUMAN. Why not MYSTERY RELIGION WORKS all KIND of WAY Right?…[Read more]

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    Irene i have showed you scriptures where Jesus said He was FLESH AND BONE after his resurrection and said a spirit has not flesh and bone as you see i have. and where He still said when He would return he would be SON OD MAN, And where Angels said He would return the same way He left in the Clouds of Heaven. But you say He is a SPIRIT “BEING” of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 21 2010,02:03)Hi Gene,Why do you choose to 'only' focus on 25% of Jesus lineage and ignore the other 75%?Matt.1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came (consummated) together, she was found with child of the HolySpirit.Matt.1:20 But while he thought on…[Read more]

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    EdJ………..I have yet to see a bible the brakes Jesus down into Presents as you do. Brother.peace and love……………………………..gene

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    EDJ………There is no such thing a Part human , you either are a human being or not. If afraid your percentage thing is flawed brother.peace and love……………………………..gene

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    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 20 2010,18:21)Pierre,Jesus spoke of Abraham seeing Jesus' day because Abraham believed God when God promised him.Galatians 3:16(NIV) reads:Quote The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.also…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 10 months ago

    TO ALL………………Right and wrong has always existed and will always exist, You decision or mine of what is right or wrong is futile at best, because they, right and wrong have already been disclosed and describe by GOD, He has laid them out for us all to see. Now the question is which do we do?, the already existing good or the already…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 10 months ago

    Kerwin……….Check it out for yourself , nearly all the translation have it just like the KJV with few exceptions. Even the one Terricca uses is still saying the same thing , he just doesn't seem to understand it is all. IMOpeace and love……………………….gene

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    Mike………..Jesus took on the nature of a man servant, not even just a Man but a MAN SERVANT, even though he had the NATURE of GOD (IN) HIM he never emptied that out of Himself the Holy Spirit he recieved at the Jordan , He simply HUMBLED himself not regarding this nature in a way that would rob GOD of Glory by trying to be an equal of God, no…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2010,19:51)Gene,Could you please give us  the version of scripture and location of the passage:Quote God does all things after the counsel of his own will Thank you!Kerwin ……….Here it is brother…………..Eph 1:11 ….> In whom also we have obtained and inheritance, being (PREDESTINED) according to the purpose of…[Read more]

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    Mike ………….Have you ever hear the term you can;t see the forest because of the trees, that is what preexistences do they find a word somewhere and draw complete doctrines out from it , and miss the complete context of what was being said even if it contradicts many scriptures we already have regarding that subject. It is like a person who…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 18 2010,14:03)Hi Gene,I don't think that's what Paul was saying at all, but that's a moot point.  I would like to discuss with you and Kerwin exactly what message Paul was trying to convey…………but after we agree on the words he himself wrote.Can you agree that your understanding has Paul writing that someone who…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 10 months ago

    Kerwin………..Indeed SELF WILLED is what drives People, but that only proves there is nothing “FREE” about it. Kerwin i have never said Human do not have WILL i Know we all DO even Jesus Did and stile does. That is not my point , my point is how does those Wills work. Is it through a “FREE” Operation or through a (INFLUENCED ) Operation. I…[Read more]

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    Mike………..That is absolutely Paul's point Jesus a man was existing with the Nature of GOD (which he recieved at the Jordan) He was existing that way (IN) his Flesh life (ON) earth and Being a Human Flesh being He Humbled Himself, and By that humbling, He was taking on the nature of a man Servant not only to God but us all, That was Paul's…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 10 months ago

    Kerwin………..If Free doesn't not mean one is free from his desires and thoughts then the person is not really FREE at all and neither is HIS WILL because a Will is the expression of a man or womens desires and Thoughts. Nothing FREE about it. That is why Scripture does not say we have “FREE WILL (IN) Us because no such thing exists. peace and…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 10 months ago

    Mike…………You got it wrong Adam and Eve exercised their Captivated WILLS that broke them Free from GODS WILL . Nothing to do with them Having a “FREE” WILL working (IN) Them at all. You still are getting the fact that GOD allows us to exercise out Captivated WILLS , You thinking that mean we poses FREE WILL (IN) Us which is not true at…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 10 months ago

    Mike………The very subject of being FREE WILLED (IS) what keep people from GOD in many way it was what happened to Adam and EVE they wanted to be FREE from GOD and Be a GOD unto themselves to decide for themselves, so they exercised their Will as being FREE from GOD'S WILL, this attitude of Self “FREE WILL thinking is my point, to me it is what…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 10 months ago

    Kerwin……..What you are not seeing i believe is “so a man thinks so he is”. We are the result of our thinking and what ever that thinking is is what we (WILL) to do. That is what makes up OUR WILLS it is OUR THINKING going on (IN) our MINDS Nothing FREE About IT, that is why scripture does use the WORDS “FREE” WILLS , but only say OUR WILLS and…[Read more]

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    Mike ……………Fact is a Cat is a cat an animal, and Jesus was and is a man because he is a man. and Yes he came into existence as a man just like we did through DNA and being BORN (not morphed as you think) of a women as we are. We all act out roles in life and that included Jesus He took on the Human role of a servant even though he had IN…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 15 years, 10 months ago

    Mike…………Eve just as you and all people take the choice which INFLUENCES YOU the MOST. Nothing “FREE” About it a WILL yes. But it is a will driven by self reasoning and INFLUENCES and THEREFOR is not “FREE”> Simple even a Child could understand this. Liberty given by GOD for us to us our (INFLUENCED and CAPTIVATED WILLS) is not the same as…[Read more]

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