Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 25 2010,14:06)Pierre,You wrote:Quote YOU ARE NOT IN ACCORD WITH SCRIPTURES CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD BECAUSE HIS PREEXISTING CONDITION.That is not written in Scripture.What is written is that one becomes a son of God through receiving the Spirit of God.   Jesus received the Spirit of Righteousness before he could be tempted by…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 25 2010,12:11)Gene, Kerwin is right, spirit is mind and heart not just intellect, the mind and heart go together, if someone is depressed and the doctor gives them prozac, why doesnt it work ? The answer is simple, problems are in the mind and also in the heart, drugs like prozac only work on the mind.We are to love God with…[Read more]

Mike………So what is you answer to JA alter EGO POST,? I am waiting with anticipation , I think i already know what it will be though.peace and love…………………….gene

Kerwin………The word of GOD was (IN) Jesus the FLESH BEING the WORD of or (FROM) GOD was NOT MADE FLESH,IT CAME TO BE (IN) THE FLESH (MAN) JESUS, Because it is SPIRIT, as Jesus said it was remember, The WORDS which he said were (NOT HIS), (ARE SPIRIT and LIFE) that is what those word He was telling US (WERE) AND (ARE). Jesus also said you can…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Oct. 24 2010,22:42)Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 24 2010,21:34)TK, I can understand what you are saying. If you look for peace you will find peace, if you look for love you will find love, if you look to build others up, you will do that, if you let deceptions into the mind, anger, confusion, jealousy, etc, your intents get broken…[Read more]

WM…………Ok i see what you are saying. I do believe when a person dies that is it and his thought parish he is gonzo for ever until he is resurrected and given a body and Spirit added back into it, and he then becomes a living soul again. Remember It says that GOD would not allow His (Jesus') (soul) to see corruption. God raised him up…[Read more]

GT………….Scripture say when a man dies his Spirit goes back to him who gave it. But a Spirit is just a spirit (intellect) it is not a Being of any kind. It is what can exist (IN) a Being. A living Soul must have a Body + Spirit in it, or it simply exists along and can not animate anything unless it is (IN) some kind of BODY. Rom 8:23 …>…[Read more]

Terricca…………Right we should all listen to you then right? , because your logic works right? You are a Joke at best , you think your logic is of GOD and His word But it is your own SELF WILL or “your “FREE WILL” Logic recieved by Blind teachings of your past IMO. Much like JA and His JA alter EGO thinking that his JA is the SPIRIT of GOD…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 23 2010,10:41)Martian,You wrote:Quote I am making fun of the stupidity of the Preexisters.It does not sound like satire or mockery to me.  It sounds like anger that has grown from a bitter root. Mockery would be to make fun of the fact that Preexisters believe the absurdity that Jesus was born before his ancestors.  They m…[Read more]

Terricca…………..Nor does anyone else but you> IMOpeace and love………………………………….gene

WM……….maybe you did not understand me , I am agreeing with you on Jesus being in the grave three days and three nights, and the days involved, So what do you mean we will have to agree to disagree about what on this topic?

Martian……………Amen to that martian. And whacker by the day.peace and love to you and yours martian………………………………..gene

Quote (seekingtruth @ Sep. 22 2010,14:29)Jesus was in the heart of the earth for three days and 3 nights. We should ignore traditions and believe the whole of scriptures, while considering translation errors as well as culture misunderstandings. Jesus died near sundown on Wednesday, spent 72 hours dead during 2 annual sabbath days (Thur & Fri) and…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Oct. 22 2010,08:24)1. Firstborn does not necessarily mean first birthed. It can be an appointed position as we know Christ was appointed to many position titles.2. Col 1 15- 17 is about Christ. The Hebrews have no concept of “creating something from nothing”. That is a Western cultural concept. Creation means to fatten or fill up.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 22 2010,04:14)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 22 2010,09:44)Kerwin………..Here is just a example of something i getting at, Have you ever though about this before. We get depth perception from two sources the right eye and the left eye these two opposites give us depth perceptions , even our hearing has to be balanced…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 22 2010,05:46)Gene,There is no balance between good and evil as evil will be vanquished someday. Although I agree with the fact that the sin that exists, is used to teach us the long term effects of evil and why it must be vanquished.My opinion ~ wmWM………I never said there was a Balance between good and evil, what i…[Read more]

Kerwin………..Here is just a example of something i getting at, Have you ever though about this before. We get depth perception from two sources the right eye and the left eye these two opposites give us depth perceptions , even our hearing has to be balanced between to sound points the right and left ear and that gives understanding of the…[Read more]

Kerwin………..You have it right Jesus is the (firstborn) from the “DEAD” not the first born of all creation as false Preexistences want us to believe. Jesus did not attain to the Glory preplanned for him until he was resurected as a Human with a body and being the first from all born creation to achieve that goal, and that Glory He had with GOD…[Read more]

Kerwin………Good or Evil was created by GOD they always existed since Life existed, Perhaps that is better to understand what i am saying, it is like saying was up or down not created , or right and left not created. Life consisted of all these things they are as much part of what life is as anything can be. These opposites give Balance to…[Read more]

EDJ…………..I think there is some presumption on your part there brother. You have not proven if we and Jesus we (Literately) existing before our coming into existence in our flesh bodies or not.Those word could very easily mean GOD had us and Jesus in His PLAN before the world ever began, it may have been his purpose for creating man in the…[Read more]