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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 06 2011,16:23)Once again you speak about the power of men as if you think we are still under the old covenant.    The time for such things has passed as the power of God is available to these that believe.  It is the power of God that creates the new man that is like God in true righteousness and holiness as the power of ma…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 06 2011,06:54)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 06 2011,10:37)Terricca…………..Where doe it say we will be MORPHED into another Being in scriptures, that is you rendition of a falsely Preconceived ideology .  According to scripture it is about the saving and (RESURRECTION OUR MY BODY) not Morphed  into some other type of e…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………..Where doe it say we will be MORPHED into another Being in scriptures, that is you rendition of a falsely Preconceived ideology . According to scripture it is about the saving and (RESURRECTION OUR MY BODY) not Morphed into some other type of existence. ” Now if the Spirit that raised Christ Jesus from the dead be (IN) you…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 05 2011,17:56)I see no real difference between your polytheist beliefs and the Trinitarians attempts to render their own polytheist beliefs monotheistic.  Jesus is not worthy to be worshiped because he can be tempted by evil as he is not the source of righteousness.  Jesus is the exact representation of God’s righteousness for…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 04 2011,02:43)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 03 2011,09:27)Tell us me mike do you want me to list the 70 or so scriptures that say Jesus was a SON of MAN also do you really think they would convince you of anything. I Highly doubt it. You would use you same lame argument and say ” well now does the prohibit him from being a…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 04 2011,02:20)Hi Gene,What you are SAYING, and what you can scripturally PROVE seem to be two different things.  :)Mike…………..Your argument is with Peter and Jesus not me. Yu simply do not believe he was Just a SON of MAN , Just like we all are. that is your Problem not ours. You can think of Jesus anyway you want…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 04 2011,02:03)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 03 2011,08:35)Kerwin……………I agree with that also those scripture do prove the point you make and i have posted them in the past also to prove that same point brother.Hi Gene,Speaking of scriptures you've posted…………………were you ever going to get around to…[Read more]

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    To all……………No one here is saying Jesus did not come into “EXISTENCE” to do GODS WILL and Bring us His words. WE are saying he did not come into existence as a “MORPHED BEING” or “PREEXISTENT BEING” of Any Kind, NOT a GOD or an Angel or anything, other then a Human being who came into “EXISTENCE  at his berth on this earth. Jesus was…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 09 2009,05:08)There is another big note that Paladin missed. In verse 14 the Geneva Bible has a parenthetical phrase which identifies the Word as the “Son.” So we have TWO notations that Paladin missed: The first is a marginal note on 1:1 that says that Christ is the Word. The second is a parenthetical phrase in verse…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 12 months ago

    To all………..A word is Just a word, it is the POWER BEHIND those WORDS that really matters. A word is powerless to do any thing except engage thought it's the power to carry out those words that counts. A word is simply an expression of an intellect and nothing more, GODS word expresses his intellect our word express our intellects nothing…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 03 2011,15:09)Gene,Quote Mike you should not chide the TRINITARIANS they believe Just like you do,  in fact their teachings is where you originally got your SEPARATIST doctrine formI am of the opinion that it was the other way as the book  of Hebrews addresses a false doctrine that taught that Jesus Anointed is an angel with t…[Read more]

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    Paladin……………You are right they are translated from the same word and mean the same in scripture. Irene Jumps in with both feet like she knows what she is talking about but does not consider any of the scripture we posted to her, she simply accuse anyone who does not agree with her dogmas as wrong. Like she knows what she is talking about…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 12 months ago

    Terricca………..A word proceeds forth from the MIND, and the SPIRIT (intellect) that is (IN) the MIND produces thoughts and they are expressed through WORDS, can you at lest understand that?. It work the SAME with GOD the Father his SPIRITS produce intellects in His Mind also and He utters them through us if his Spirit is (IN) a Person, the…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2011,06:53)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 02 2011,08:50)Mike………….No one is “GOD'S WORD” but GOD HIMSELF Now if you ask who speaks GOD'S WORD, there were many who did , first the Prophets and Jesus and the Saint do also. But just as Jesus said those words were not theirs but the FATHERS WORD. You still seem to not…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2011,12:13)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 31 2011,22:20)If one believes Jesus is a human being just like other human beings except that his faith was and is complete then I believe that sastifies a need for a believers faith to grow more mature.So you are with Gene then, eh Kerwin?  Just like Gene, you are willing to totally…[Read more]

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    David………….Sorry Revelation does not Show it that way but Just the opposite Mankind will fall away Just as soon as Satan is released fro the bottomless pit. And he goes out to deceive that Nation Gog and Magog and GOD will bring Fire down from heaven and devour them . Just as it say He will. IMOpeace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    Mike………….No one is “GOD'S WORD” but GOD HIMSELF Now if you ask who speaks GOD'S WORD, there were many who did , first the Prophets and Jesus and the Saint do also. But just as Jesus said those words were not theirs but the FATHERS WORD. You still seem to not believe that the FATHER who is GOD was truly (IN) Jesus as the LOGOS do you.…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 12 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 01 2011,17:11)The Spirit of God is his creative force and every human being is always created by God.  Jesus creation was a wonder as it was done in an exceptional way.  As God is the sire Adam’s body so is he the sire of Jesus’ body.  The Holy Spirit also teaches and trains in righteousness and so God also sired the saintl…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 01 2011,15:12)Ed J.,One must be led by God in order to understand scriptures correctly.  You can be led by God before being born again as it is he that leads you to be born again.  Scriptures are useful for teaching and training in righteousness.In all that I agree with you.Kerwin…………….Well said brother.peace and l…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2011,14:01)Gene, The Kingdom of Israel could be called “David's Kingdom” and also “God's Kingdom” at the same time.  That does not mean there were two separate Kingdoms of Israel.You are missing the fact that the Kingdom of Jesus Christ IS the Kingdom of God.  The Kingdom of the Saints IS the Kingdom of God.  There is…[Read more]

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