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    Seekingtruth…………If they saw the souls then they must have had a Physical existence in order to be seen, also you must remember Revelation is written in “Symbolic language”, Soul in scripture implies the complete being, His Body and Spirit.  Please show one resurrection that did not include a Physical Body, Jesus was raise not as a soul…[Read more]

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    T8………..Yes if you break down all the components three is what you get, but One is the complete component. For instance you example of North America, South America, Americas, The word Americas represents the total of them all. They are all the Americas. The same with Body Soul and Spirit, the word Soul representing all, the combination of…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Sep. 12 2011,11:35)Gene, here is why some explaining is in order.You continually say the kingdom of god is “within us.”Well, I could just as easily dismiss that translation in favor of:“The kingdom of God is in your midst.” (New World Translation) “For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst.”  (NASB)“Because God's kingdom…[Read more]

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    T8……….The Soul (IS) the combination of the Spirit and Body so naturally Paul would include all three word in his statement , They are different in this way a Spirit and Body are the two components that make a SOUL . Paul was talking about the compete being there.IMOpeace and love…………………………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 12 2011,12:10)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 12 2011,07:58)T8………Here is something to think about. Let say i went to a field and took a seed from a plant like a bell pepper or squash or tomato. and waited a year and Planted it what would come up ? A different kind of Bell pepper? a different Kind of squash, a different kind of…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 11 2011,22:12)Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 10 2011,22:34)Kerwin! The Soul is not the Spirit, the Soul is our bodies….The breath of live is our Spirit, which goes back to God who gave it, at death…..Gen 2:7   And the LORD God formed man the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,03:35)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 11 2011,09:35)Paladin i believe is the best Here to give the original Greek meaning of those words i have checked it out and he is very accurate in what he is saying and we should all pay more attention to what he is saying.Gene,A blind man is unaware that his guide is also…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2011,03:38)geneQuote  Paladin i believe is the best Here to give the original Greek meaning of those words i have checked it out and he is very accurate in what he is saying and we should all pay more attention to what he is saying. He brings clarity to scriptures to those who have eyes to see and ear to hear. IMOthis…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Sep. 11 2011,13:08)GENE, show me scriptures that explain or back up what you say.  For example, say:”God rules (IN) the Heart and Minds of his childern” (scripture citation goes here)David………..The prayer Jesus gave should Help you understand this , When Jesus said ” thy kingdom come thy (WILL) be Done” where God rules His…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 11 2011,22:28)Quote (david @ Sep. 10 2011,18:05)T8Why do you believe jesus said the kingdom is “within us”?I believe the idea that the kingdom (a word that means “government, empire” etc) is within people does not line up with ACCURATE scripture.There is really only one scripture that pushes people to believe that, and it's not…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 11 2011,07:09)gene  ?????Terricca…………Anyone can quote scriptures like you and Irene do also, the same ones over and over , but understanding them is what counts not just quoting them. That is why i like what Paladin does He expounds them to us from there original Greek language and then we can get the right context…[Read more]

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    Isa 1:18……………Good to hear from you again, Hay have you been following our discussions on the “INCARNATION ” Thread read what Paladin has posted and see what you think brother.peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………gene

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2011,13:14)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 06 2011,23:36)Hi Mike,What is at issue here is what “Glory” is it that will be revealed in us, if it is not in the same capacity as it was in Jesus; correct?My contention is the Glory that will be revealed in us is in the same capacity as it was in Jesus; do you disagree?For I reckon that…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Sep. 09 2011,13:06)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 31 2011,14:07)Davidthe kingdom of Christ is all of creation because that is why he came to save,but the kingdom of God this refers to all including Christ this is why it say that God his the God of gods,and Lord of lordsbut of Christ it says Lord of lords and King of kingsPierre1.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 10 2011,19:33)John 6:62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?TRINITY ARGUMENT: Since Jesus said that he was going to return back up to where he was before, he must have been in heaven, and therefore, must have been God.REBUTTAL: Jesus did not say he was going “back” to anything, or anywhere.…[Read more]

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    Paladin………..I tell you brother they Just do not get it.Peace and love to you and yours………………………………….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 11 months ago

    Mike….> if you do not believe the word (LOGOS) of God came to be in Jesus, then answer this “THE WORDS I AM TELLING YOU ARE NOT MY WORDS BUT THE WORDS OF HIM WHO SENT ME”. And while you at it answer this , The Father who is (IN) Me (HE) doth the Works, so tell us O Wise one , how was the Father (IN) Jesus?< was it not by the Spirit…[Read more]

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    T8…………My bible say and GOD SAID, not the SON SAID anything, You must be reading a different Bible. My bible says GOD alone and by himself created everything that exists, Again you must be reading a different bible or reading some kind of MYSTERY Into it that it does not itself say right? peace and love to you and yours…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 11 months ago

    To All………….God is SPIRIT , problem here is not understanding what SPIRIT IS> Spirit is not a Being it is what is (IN) Beings . The same Spirit can be in everyone all at the same time, rather a clean or unclean spirits, Spirits simply put, are (INTELLECTS) . They are not BEINGS they control the BEINGS MINDS they are (IN)> Why do you think…[Read more]

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    Paladin…………Right on brother, It is simple to understand when a person get rid of all the “MYSTERY RELIGION” garbage of the Trinitarians and Preexistences, their “Mystery Religion” is simply a religion of CONFUSION. But thanks be to GOD that he has allowed Some to understand the Truth. Jesus is a 100% human being who under the influence…[Read more]

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