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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2011,22:08)our soul is not our spirit (mind) the soul is US as individual,but our spirit (mind) is our product (ability to fill the soul with good or bad knowledge and intention)and it is trough our flesh that we act on that knowledge and will power we have in the soul,we can fill our mind with all sorts of things and…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 18 2011,20:20)It's a good verse Ed because it says both:he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.I think it is absolutely possible that the Kingdom of God is in us and among us. Other references to the Kingdom as being among us is not necessarily contradictory if Jesus says, the Kingdom is within us. The only other time on record…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………“thy kingdom come thy “WILL” be done” in earth as it is done in heaven. That all work (INSIDE) of a person. You have posted it right IMO. peace and love……………………………………………………………gene

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    To All……….understanding what Spirit is it the problem here IMO, Spirit is Not part of a Person or SOUL it is added  or subtracted from a Person, Spirit in it simplest meaning is (INTELLECT) and we as  “LIVING SOUL”  simulate Spirit into us, whether it is from the “World” of From God it makes no difference it will cause us to think and act ac…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2011,02:09)I have seen many scriptures that support “in your midst”, but none so far that would support the entire Kingdom of God being “within” the very Pharisees that had Jesus killed.Mike……….There are only two place in scripture that shows the word “entos” and both place mean inside and no matter what you NWT…[Read more]

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    T8……….You are absolutely right, the only times the word (entos) appears in scripture is twice and in both cases it means (INSIDE).David is letting His JW church do his talking here not the Spirit of Truth IMO> There are so many scriptures that show it is inside a person, Most all the Parables about the kingdom of God show it as an INSIDE…[Read more]

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    Kerwin………..I believe the Soul is indeed the complete Person, Spirit is added or retracted into that LIVING Soul, but that Soul can not LIVE without a Body to Live (IN). Take a baby, when it is born it is just a Living Soul with no Knowledge of any Kind it can not walk talk and would simply die if left alone, but it has the capacity to absorb…[Read more]

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    David……….Here is another to think about…> Mar 4:26 ….> and he said, So is the Kingdom of GOD, as if a man should cast seed into the ground ; David that Ground is our hearts and that seed is the word of GOD sown into it.  That is the KINGDOM OF GOD. being created   within us The Kingdom of God rules “within” by God's Holy Spirit, it d…[Read more]

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    David………You are thinking within the “BOX” that box is the JW Organization they have put you in, come out side  of it, let go of their teachings and ask God to Show you the Truth on this issue, it is clear in scripture that the Kingdom of God is Within a Person. Where GODS Spirit is,  there is where his Kingdom is also.  Mar 1 :15 And sa…[Read more]

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    Paladin…………Your work here is not without effect brother, there are some who do understand what you have put forth from scripture and agree with you. The Christos is indeed the Logos of GOD and it was (IN) Jesus and is (IN) all true Saints of GOD who are the true Brothers of Jesus. It was made to be flesh in Jesus and is made flesh in all…[Read more]

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    Paladin…………..Need you help , go over on the Kingdom of GOD thread and give David and us the Greek translation where it says the Kingdom of God is within you . Would appreciate the help brother thanks.peace and love to you and yours……………………………………..gene

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    MIke……….Yes and that SOUL is your complete Being your “LIVING SOUL” Not a Separate Soul, separate from you Body as you falsely assume. Man was not a living Soul until the Breath of Life entered his body and then he was a living Soul not before that happened. So if you example of soul is right then it was a dead one not a living one.…[Read more]

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    ED j……….Good one brother, the Kingdom of GOD is where he rules and He rules his true Childern from the inside OUT not from the outside IN> The JW'S focuses is on the outside a Physical Kingdom becasue there leaders know it will tantalize their physically minded followers and gives them complete control over their people, even to the point…[Read more]

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    David…………You are using your JW Bible translation to support you false teachings of the Kingdom of God only being a Physical Kingdom becasue it makes you people feel you are special , unique, and separates you from the rest of the world so by that you people think you are the “ONLY TRUE CHOSEN ONES” and in order to grow you organization…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 16 2011,23:48)Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by “The Word” of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear(Like Jesus). (Hebrews 11:3)All things were made by him(“The Word”); and without him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1:3)1) John 1:3 does NOT say what you…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Sep. 15 2011,17:00)“then it could be taken that hearing his voice and instruction is from within us because that is where he dwells.”So, JESUS dwells in us…(I'd like that scripture cited, just for fun), but does that scripture, whatever it is say the KINGDOM dwells inside the pharisees, the very ones who shut up the kingdom of the…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 15 2011,16:18)28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. :Which clearly speaks of the bodiless individual as the soul.So Ecclesiastes is asking who knows if the sprit(non-corporeal soul) of a human being ascends and the…[Read more]

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    T8……….Try considering this  that a body is nothing but matter it can not think at all it can not animate itself or realize its existences it is simply Matter , now in order for this matter to become a “Living Being” or  SOUL it must be activated by GOD, Once this activation takes place it is now a “living Soul” that can simulate Spirit (…[Read more]

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    Paladin…………….Well said Brother.peace and love to you and yours………………………………gene

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    T8………..I try to consider all scripture in this understanding, of Body , Soul and Spirit. When Jesus told us to fear him who could destory (now please notice) “BOTH” Body and Soul (IN) the Grave. He did not use Body soul and spirit, why? because Spirit can not be destroyed in the grave,   but a Body which is your “LIVING SOUL”  or complete “…[Read more]

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