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    Shimmer………Glad to hear from you again, No one has it all, but we are told to grow in GRACE (And) KNOWLEDGE, I agree with Tim, and No one has all knowledge except GOD, we only see in part we are told but we are to strive to learn and grow to the mark of the high calling in GOD and Jesus through the Christos or anointing. I am sure you…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 27 2011,12:02)Hi Mike,It's only a matter of time before you as well as others begin to see the big picture. :)That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: 11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being…[Read more]

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    Kerwin………….”So a man thinks so He (IS)”, It is all about Spirit rather the spirit of GOD or the Spirit of the World. The Spirit (INTELLECT) of GOD is the way GOD Thinks, the Spirit(intellect) of the World is the way the world thinks. Sow to the Spiirt of GOD and you will have life So to the Spiriit of the World and you will reap death.For…[Read more]

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    ftk…………indeed God the Father was in Christ Jesus reconciling the world to “HIMSELF” and can dwell in us the same way he did Jesus. We are united with Jesus and the Father by ONE SPIRIT (intellect of truth). peace and love to you and yours……………………………………..gene

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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 29 2011,23:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 29 2011,08:33)I'm not asking what YOU think it means.  I'm asking if there is any scriptural or logical reason that it CAN'T mean exactly what it says – “ALL THINGS”?Mike,It would not be an internally consistent teaching as Paul is teaching about righteousness and not about the creative…[Read more]

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    T8………………if i am following you right you simply do not believe in a resurrection of our Bodies. Even though scripture say that we will witness the redemption of our BODIES. (ROM 8:23…..> T8, why witness the redemption of our bodies if our bodies are no longer needed.  and again this scripture, “if the Spirit that raised Christ Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 28 2011,07:52)Quote (ftk @ Sep. 28 2011,02:24)Here is something interesting. The scripture Paul is quoting at Hebrew 2:7….in the New Testament came from Psalms, 8:5…. and it uses the word “Elohyim” that is translated as “angels”….!….for thou hast made him a little lower than “Elohyim” and hast crowned him with glory….!…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 28 2011,07:42)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 28 2011,02:04)Lest you fall into the same trap the Trinitarians and Preexistences have. IMOSo I take it that you are a non-existence then?T8……….I have no idea what you meant by that statement . I was addressing the idea taught by the trinitarians and Preexistences about Jesus'…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 28 2011,11:05)Gene, I still see a major flaw in your doctrine.i.e., if we are given a new spirit, then we are not the same individual any more. We are being replaced by someone else.Because there is nothing unique about what man is in your doctrine, then that uniqueness is not transferred.You seem to be suggesting that rather than…[Read more]

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    Ftk………I did go and checked it out it appears you are right Brother it should be rendered “Elohim” or GOD in the text in Hebrews. Good Job Brother.peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………..gene

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    Quote (ftk @ Sep. 28 2011,02:24)Here is something interesting. The scripture Paul is quoting at Hebrew 2:7….in the New Testament came from Psalms, 8:5…. and it uses the word “Elohyim” that is translated as “angels”….!….for thou hast made him a little lower than “Elohyim” and hast crowned him with glory….! Wow!! TKftk……….I never…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 27 2011,10:05)Hi Irene,”The Word” is the HolySpirit; do these verses all shown together help to show you?       the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14)       compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18)The Word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is conse…[Read more]

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    Kerwin……………The saints will also have that Glory and Honor Jesus is NOW HAVING, remember Jesus said Father I give them the Glory you have Given Me also that where i am they may be also. Kerwin Don't separate Jesus from our from our EXACT IDENTITY Lest you fall into the same trap the Trinitarians and Preexistences have. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

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    Quote (ftk @ Sep. 27 2011,22:29)Gene: I do so agree with you. Christ “in us” is the hope of glory. Jesus is our lord and master but also our brother and first born of many. The spirit/life force/truth of God has come to us through Jesus. The words of God are the Kingdom of God, within each person. Spirit is within and without. Spirit is everywhere…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 26 2011,10:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 26 2011,04:20)(I tried to find this scripture from memory, and mistakenly checked John 3:13 instead of John 13:3.  I was amused to discover that 3:13 contains the exact same teaching:  “No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.”  Perhaps my frie…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 26 2011,04:29)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 25 2011,20:55)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 25 2011,00:19)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 24 2011,14:12)Kerwin….. Heb 2:6-9……>   But one in a certain place testified saying what is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visits him? 7….> Thou made him a little bower…[Read more]

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    Terriicca……..Right i only have and opinion and that is all you have , you and your Co-harts have never produced one scripture that say Spirit have Bodies If you think your can, Find them, then post them instead of you ignorant and stupid remarks. But Jesus said a Spirit does not have a Body like he has what i have been saying totally agree…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 27 2011,08:35)You quoted a scripture then you gave your own understanding that I know is wrong because the Hebrew word “rapha'” has only one meaning which is “Kerwin …….> I have quoted many scriptures not just “ONE”, we may have to agree to disagree on this one subject Brother.peace and love to you and yours…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 27 2011,08:21)Some thoughts Gene. Things did change after Jesus died and conquered death.At one stage the enemy had the power of death, but now when we die, we are present with the LORD.To demonstrate this victory, when Jesus died, the graves were opened.The dead in Christ rise first.T8………. Thing did change for Jesus his…[Read more]

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    Kerwin………..I quoted clear scripture that shows what takes place when a person dies , they have no memory or thoughts of any Kind they are simply dead. But you refuse to accept them as they are written because it does not meet your perceptions of what death is. You fail to realize that our Life after death is completely in the Hand of GOD ,…[Read more]

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