Adam……Good post brother,  Gal 5:2-4    We are being “created” unto good works by the Spirit of God our Father,  because it is him that works in us and through us, both “to Will and do of ‘HIS” good pleasure” , just as He did and still Does, in and through Jesus Christ,  our brother.  This is all done by, the “WORKS OF THE SPIRIT”, of God,  not by…[Read more]

Berean……Where does the father fit in your “salvation” process, seeing you seem to nearly alway just talk about Jesus, and you seem to look at him “only” as your true savior?  Where does God the Father appear in you salvation process at?
And you still haven’t answered my questions,  do you keep the “feast of tabernacles”, and where did Jesus e…[Read more]

Berean……. What does this mean to you,  “By obedience to Law , shall “NO ONE” be “justified” Before God’.

Do you know what it means by this, ‘that those that are under the grace of God “are not under the works of law”, for you are saved by “Grace” Not by works of law”. Here is some more help for you if you can receive it,  1 Ti 1:9,  <…[Read more]

Adam……your are right , Jesus was sent to his own nation first (the Nation of Judah consisting of the three tribes of Levi, Benjamin, and Judah). Jesus also sent his disciples to the ten “lost tribes of Israel “.  That is correct ,  his first focus was on them, and not the Gentiles,  but it’s not as if the Gentiles were left out,  because he also s…[Read more]

Carmel……The “FIRST LOVE ” is God he Father,   For Jesus,  and all true believers, which are   his brothers and sisters.   Jesus is not now or ever was to be take as anyone’s “FIRST LOVE”,  THAT  IS RESERVED FOR GOD the Father “ALONE”.

peace and love to you and yours………….gene

Carmel……..my,my, my, how you arrogantly you change our scriptures to meet your lies continually .

This is the proper translation of Philippians 2:10-11.

Phi 2:10-11…….That at the name of Jesus every  Knee should bow,  of things in heaven, and things in earth and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is…[Read more]

Berean……..Rev 2:4. Speaks of those who lost their “first love” ,  not there ‘second Love’ Jesus Christ , but there “First love ” who is God the Father.   Jesus told them of all the things they did in his name, just as he tols others that in his day “many shall come and say to him ” in “YOUR NAME”   (the name of Jesus we did all these goos works)…[Read more]

Berean ,   Yes the Bible does speak of The first love and also the second love,  it’s found here 

Matt 22: 36-40,  to them who have eyes to see.

peace and love to you and yours Berean…………gene

Berean……But Jesus said “NO” man can come unto me except the Father draw him.  Seems you have a dilemma on your hands, So who’s first even in our salvation is it God the Father or Jesus Christ? ,  according to Jesus it is the Father.  So Berean who is your “first love” , Jesus or God,  the Father.

peace and love to you and yours…………gene

Berean…….who is your ,”First love”? , Rev 2:4,   Matt 22:36.  is it Jesus or “God the Father”?

peace and love to you and yours Berean………..gene

Berean……Please show us a single sabbath day Abraham, Issac, Jacob or Joseph ever kept, “written” in our scriptures.   Taking around it is not acceptable .

peace and love to you and yours Berean……..gene

Adam…….that’s correct,  but people will do anything to justify themselves.  Fact is the Sabbath was indeed made for us to rest,  but being made for ‘US’ then we to are lord’s of the Sabbath to just as Jesus was.
But those who believe , we are justified by obedience to Law, and that’s  the way they are saved,  are those who are under a “curse” of…[Read more]

Berean…….if you were dying and the doctor told you he could operate and save your life , but you would need a blood transfusion in order to have the operation to save your life, and restore your health,  would you do it?

I will tell you a true story I had first hand experience with,  after you answer that question.

peace and love to you and y…[Read more]

Berean…….Jesus said God the Father works on the Sabbath and He did too. Also he said the about the Sabbath”the Sabbath was made “FOR” man and “Not” Man for the Sabbath” He also said “he was  lord of the sabbath,”. And therefore So are we.  God created the Sabbath for man kind and all creation to rest from their labors one day a week,  that…[Read more]

Berean,   Your church and you are all about Jesus,  but Jesus was all about God the Father and the fathers kingdom.   Has the SDA church also,  as the Church of Ephesus , left their,   “first love” like so many have?  REV 2;4,

Berean you really need to check out and listen to what these people are. Saying. We are right at the time of Jesus’…[Read more]

Mike and Adam , Proclaimer, Berean, Carmel, Miia,   anyone else, “finally”,   a site that is preaching the  whole truth about  who Jesus is,  and the word of God. It’s about time to hear the whole truth, from an organization,  so that people can get rid of all the trash that false Christianity has preached and lied to us about over the last se…[Read more]

Proclaimer…..you said,   “Your doctrine says that the blame lies plainly at the feet of God” .

Exactly right, everything does lie at the feet of God, and God the Father takes responsibility for “it ALL”.
Are you so niece that you think God could not have prevented mankind from falling in the first place if he wanted to?

Tell me Proclaimer,  wh…[Read more]

Proclaimer……”ALL” Will’s are “caused” , by what is “influencing ” them the most,   Nothing “FREE” about it.  You getting a freedom God gives us to exercise our “influenced” Will’s , mixed up with the Will’s themselves being “free’, themselves.

Again Proclaimer there exists no such thing as any WILL being “Free” itself.  The term “freewill” is a…[Read more]

Mike……I agree with that, we all are a work in progress,  until we all grow up to the measure and full stature of Christ Jesus.  That is why I always end with the words “peace and love to you and yours” , it’s because I know what you said in your last post is true brother.

peace and love to you and yours Mike……….gene

Carmel……Your reasoning is so screwed up it is not even worth committing on.  It is oblivious to me you have received the deluding from God in order for you to believe a LIE.  Because you simply do not love the truth, plainly written in our scriptures,  I have quoted exactly scriptures as they are written,  and you accuse me of not doing that, a…[Read more]