Berean,, being called something dosen’t make you it. JUST is called the  word of God because he tell us “what the Father tells him to tell us, not because  he “IS”  the word of God “HIMSELF”. This is why I have ask you before , do you actually believe what Jesus actually himself says.  “The “words I am telling you are not my word , but the words…[Read more]

Mike…..where was Jesus ever mentioned in the old testement, as a prexisting being?  Did Jesus ever say he was alive before his berth on this earth, just one scripture where he apsolutely said the,  I and not talking about scriptures that say he was prophesied to come into his existence, but where it say he was already existing as a actual b…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….Wrong, they do not see Jesus tbe exact way they see other humans,  nor do you.  You and they believe he was a preexisting being,  of some kind,  that view just proves my point. 

You or they have never proved at any time any activity of Jesus before his birth on this earth ever.

To say you and others here see Jesus as a ordi…[Read more]

To all,  what is the greatest value of seeing Jesus as a flesh and blood  human being, who, came into his, “ONLY”,   Existence, exactly   as we have?  

1……THEN, we know he had no advantage over us, and his “overcomming”, this world , must be the same exact same way we have to overcome it.  THE EXACT SAME WAY, WITHOUT EXCEPTION OF [Read more]

Adam…….God “alone” “IS” eternal life,  , That is why he alone is the “tree of life”  all that have the Spirit of him (God the Father),  dwelling  “in” them,  have eternal life abiding “in” them. The only thing we need is a new body, which we get at the resurection .   Remember what Jesus said , “you,  “must” be “BORN”, again.  Adam try to see…[Read more]

Miia,  that is the hope of us all someday we will also have eternal life, but I very much doubt we will ever be a God.  AND ALWAYS REMEMBER what Jesus said , ” I was “dead” and “NOW”,  am alive for evermore. He never said he was alive in heaven , then morphed into a human body lived again and the died again and “NOW” is alive forever more did he?…[Read more]

Miia. ……Good  to here from you again, hope everything is going well for you,  Missed you.

Peace and love to you and yours Miia………….gene

Berean…….In the,  “IMAGE” of God created he them, male and female created he them.  So applying the word image to someone does not make you that thing,  nor a God either. 

Tell us if Jesus was and is God, why would he say.,  we could do greater works the he ever did? Why would scripture say, “he was the firstborn (into the kingdom of God)…[Read more]

Berean…….My bible say in the beginning  God “SPOKE” ,  it does not indicate Jesus ever “SPOKE”  ANYTHING  “IN” THE BEGINNIG, not a single word ever sujested Jesus nor his Spirit was even there.  

Do you really think that you can take the Glory of what God the Father did, and give it to any human being that ever lived?  You are stealing Glory…[Read more]

Berean…….Your problem is you cherry pick our scriptures to the exclusion of the rest of them , and try to make your points,  you can never get the real trite by doing that .  You reject and fail to deal with scriptures that completely disagree with what you say,  you force even the text you use to say what in fact they do say,  this is how I k…[Read more]

Proclaimer………This is the way I see it,  Jesus was proficed to come into his existence  by the prophets along time before his existence came to reality.  The error false on the fact that a word can not actually itself be a real person, no word can, be , because a word is an expression that come from anyone that speaks it,  a word is def…[Read more]

Proclaimer……APSOLUTE RIGHT “there is no such thing as a “TRINITY” never was and never will be either.  What these false teachers have Done is took the true “image” of Jesus being made into the image of God exactly as we are,  and turned that “image” into their GOD.  AND worship him as their God,  

The apostle Paul prophesied that to happe…[Read more]

Carmel and Mike…….when you create something you bring it forth from nothing,   when you make something you make it from  something that exists. God made the earth and all things therein.  He took existing things and made something from them.  God may have made this earth over many times, as fossil findingso show,  and destroyed it with wate…[Read more]

Mike……Paraphrasing is exactly what you do with things that are clearly written that go against your reasonings.  FACT IS Genesis 1, clearly indicates  that the heavens and earth was already here,  when God Started his , new beginning of this earth that once existed,  and he destroyed the earth with all the animal kingdom that then existed,  wi…[Read more]

Mike…..I though would cop out and not answer, my question, by saying we haven’t answered your, which is not true because we have over and over here. CAN’T help it if you unable to comprehend thzt.

But back to my ‘Sinple’ question,  Did Adam and Eve “DIE” on the 24 hr period day,  AFTER they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?  …[Read more]

Mike…….. what does the scripture that says, “there remains a sabbath rest unto the God” , if the people of God were keeping the true 24 hr day Sabbath of God , then why does there remain a sabbath rest to them?, I will give you the answer ok,  it is because the Sabbath of God is a thousand year period of time , that has not even started ye…[Read more]

Berean,  please don’the take this the wrong way ok,  I believe you are a novice when it comes to understanding scriptures, you are contained within the understandings of the TEACHING OF YOUR CHURCH,  AND YOU HAVE POSTED MANY OF THERE TEACHINGS HERE. Much like the JW’S and other Cults do,  they can only relate to others what their own org…[Read more]

Berean,   will you stop posting  these books and articles from other sources over and over all the time?, First of all no body is reading them,  and they take to much time to respond to here,  stop pushing you church or organizations.   Just give us what you personally understand OK. IN A FEW WORDS.

Peace and love to you and yours Bere…[Read more]

Mike…….Have you ever looked up what the meaning of the word “create” means in the original Hebrew language .  From what I have read it means “to spread abroad” or fatten, in fact there exists no Hebrew word for created according to some Hebrew scholars, like Jeff Beener.  In his book “the mechanical translation of Genesis”.  Even man was fo…[Read more]

Mike , but this,  we do know,  Gen 1:1 says God created the heavens and the earth , before he every said ,  anyhing about the earth or of the time he did it in,  and he did say the earth was without form and void when his spirit hovered over it which shows it was already here.   So to asume all that was indeed here,  before he started deali…[Read more]