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    Proclaimer………This is the way I see it,  Jesus was proficed to come into his existence  by the prophets along time before his existence came to reality.  The error false on the fact that a word can not actually itself be a real person, no word can, be , because a word is an expression that come from anyone that speaks it,  a word is def…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……APSOLUTE RIGHT “there is no such thing as a “TRINITY” never was and never will be either.  What these false teachers have Done is took the true “image” of Jesus being made into the image of God exactly as we are,  and turned that “image” into their GOD.  AND worship him as their God,  

    The apostle Paul prophesied that to happe…[Read more]

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    Carmel and Mike…….when you create something you bring it forth from nothing,   when you make something you make it from  something that exists. God made the earth and all things therein.  He took existing things and made something from them.  God may have made this earth over many times, as fossil findingso show,  and destroyed it with wate…[Read more]

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    Mike……Paraphrasing is exactly what you do with things that are clearly written that go against your reasonings.  FACT IS Genesis 1, clearly indicates  that the heavens and earth was already here,  when God Started his , new beginning of this earth that once existed,  and he destroyed the earth with all the animal kingdom that then existed,  wi…[Read more]

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    Mike…..I though would cop out and not answer, my question, by saying we haven’t answered your, which is not true because we have over and over here. CAN’T help it if you unable to comprehend thzt.

    But back to my ‘Sinple’ question,  Did Adam and Eve “DIE” on the 24 hr period day,  AFTER they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?  …[Read more]

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    Mike…….. what does the scripture that says, “there remains a sabbath rest unto the God” , if the people of God were keeping the true 24 hr day Sabbath of God , then why does there remain a sabbath rest to them?, I will give you the answer ok,  it is because the Sabbath of God is a thousand year period of time , that has not even started ye…[Read more]

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    Berean,  please don’the take this the wrong way ok,  I believe you are a novice when it comes to understanding scriptures, you are contained within the understandings of the TEACHING OF YOUR CHURCH,  AND YOU HAVE POSTED MANY OF THERE TEACHINGS HERE. Much like the JW’S and other Cults do,  they can only relate to others what their own org…[Read more]

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    Berean,   will you stop posting  these books and articles from other sources over and over all the time?, First of all no body is reading them,  and they take to much time to respond to here,  stop pushing you church or organizations.   Just give us what you personally understand OK. IN A FEW WORDS.

    Peace and love to you and yours Bere…[Read more]

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    Mike…….Have you ever looked up what the meaning of the word “create” means in the original Hebrew language .  From what I have read it means “to spread abroad” or fatten, in fact there exists no Hebrew word for created according to some Hebrew scholars, like Jeff Beener.  In his book “the mechanical translation of Genesis”.  Even man was fo…[Read more]

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    Mike , but this,  we do know,  Gen 1:1 says God created the heavens and the earth , before he every said ,  anyhing about the earth or of the time he did it in,  and he did say the earth was without form and void when his spirit hovered over it which shows it was already here.   So to asume all that was indeed here,  before he started deali…[Read more]

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    Mike…..Please answer this question ok,  did Adam and Eve Die in the “DAY”, ( a 24 hour period) after they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?    If not then God was speaking of a different time period then a 24 hour time period,  right?

    We are clearly told in scripture,  A day in God’s time,  equals a thousand years and a thou…[Read more]

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    Mike…… it’s playing out fine,  maybe you can answer the question Above,  I gave Berean, he needs all the help he can get.  So take a little time and answer it please.

    Does a day equal a “thousand years with God “?

    peace and love to you and yours Mike………gene

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    Berean……you continue to not address my points,  why is that? , I said Adam and Eve did not die in the 24 hour period after the ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.   Need proof?  Read this ,

    God said,   Gen 2:17……“But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat: for in the “DAY”  that you eat thereof you…[Read more]

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    Berean, A thousand years equals a day with God and a day equals a thousand years.  God said to Adam and Eve, “in the ” DAY, YOU EAT  OF THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE AND EVIL YOU SHALL DIE,   “right”/? ,  but they did not die in the exact 24 hour time period after they ate it, right?  But they did die within  God the Father’s , time period of one tho…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer my post are not being posted why?    Your idea of splitting up the posts is a good idea.

    By the way I do agree with your point about the earth already and water already existed before God started this creation, in  fact there could have been many beginnings this earth may have went through,

    peace and love to you and yours Proclaimer………..gene

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    ADAM….yes it says God made “this” heaven, and “this” earth in six days,   But does that limit God from having made other heavens and other earths thousands if not millions of years ago?  Our planet is just a speck in the universe.

    Mike would have us believe God made everything that exists in just six days ,  I agree with Proclaimer on this,…[Read more]

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    Berean….. I realize that ,  because you don’t believe what Jesus or Paul said either. But you do believe in what the SDA  SAY RIGHT?

    peace and love to you and yours……..gene

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    Berean…….The Sabbath of God  is a shadow of the things to come, it show that we use enter to a state of rest, but how?,  by ceasing from or works, and resting and letting God do the works in us.  Just the “exact same way Jesus I” .  Or don’t you believe Jesus when he said,  “I can do nothing of myself , the Father who is “in” me, “He” ,does,  “the…[Read more]

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    Berean…….first of all we are not the ones God was talking to at the time that was given to The nation of Israel,  in the form of  “LAWS” .  That nation was a Carnal Nation, nor did they keep the sabbath properly right either,  they have  nothing to do with the Spiritual house of God .  OR HAVEN’T YOU EVER , READ THIS,  there “Remains” a k…[Read more]

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    Mike…..What I, Call trivial, is things that have nothing to do with our salvation.  Things like is the earth flat or not. Thing we can go on and on about, but are not important.  Here is an example, of trivia,  prove that Genesis 1-4 weren’t already existing before there was a first day?  Fact is you can’t,  so to say God created everything…[Read more]

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