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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2012,06:52)Hi t8, If we are still just a product of our culture then we are not led by the Spirit.Loving God is not shown to be a way of salvation.Nick……….Loving GOD is not a way to Salvation? Where on earth did you get that from?  Surely not from Jesus, Who said the greatest commandment was to love the Lord our…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ June 05 2012,20:41)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 10 2010,03:24)To all……Back to the thread……….> the word I am has nothing to do with the word Lucifier at all. The word Lucifer means rising star as the king of Babylon was before God cut him down, It has nothing to do with an elusive (BEING) called a devil,or a Satan. Pure…[Read more]

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    Nick ………Good advice, so when are you going to start to do that, would be the question here. I have recieved the Spirit of God a long long time ago Nick and have had many many many prayer answered that Proves it, Why do you “ASSUME” you have and i and others haven't the Spirit of GOD? Is it because i disagree with “YOUR” wrong teaching that…[Read more]

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    Nick……….So say you.peace and love…………………………………….gene

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2012,22:38)Hi GB, Then stop thinking and believe the words of Jesus.Nick………Show us where anyone can “STOP THINKING” and still believe the words of Jesus. That statement is an OXYMORON. The only time a person “STOPS THINKING: is when they are DEAD!. Please show me where i disagree with Jesus and his words. rather…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 05 2012,09:57) You should accept the words of the scripture as they are.  You should adjust YOUR understanding to align with the scripture instead of adjusting the scripture to align with your understanding.Mike………Now take you word and apply them to what Paul was talking about when he made  that, Statement. He was ta…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2012,06:54)Hi GB, You would not have to post so much and work so hard to convince us of your beliefs if you submitted to the teaching of Jesus in the Holy Scriptures.Nick………I put a lot of energy into this subject becasue i believe it is a big Problem with Christian Thought. All kind of false teaching and…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 04 2012,02:32)It is evident to me that you are simply making this stuff up off the top of your head.  It is surely not of any scripture.And is there any being in existence who has his own mind and will, yet can't be categorized as an “individual person”?  If so, name one for me.Mike…………NO Spirit is a Person, a S…[Read more]

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    T8……….Good Post BrotherPeace and love to you and yours……………………………………………………………….gene

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    To All……….Zeroing in on the WORD Gnostic is not the Question here , the Gnostic's had a particular teaching and that should be the question we are talking about not the Meaning of the word, becasue the word Gnostic is not a Bad word of it self. It is what that group of people taught that counts, They taught that Jesus was a person…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 03 2012,07:17)Hi GB, So there are CLEAN spirits? Who told you as scripture does not say so?The Holy Spirit is of heaven and of God and not related to demons.Nick…….If their are unclean Spirits there are Clean also Brother, Just as there is Good and Evil.  God gave the Clean and uncle Law to illustrate that very Point…[Read more]

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    Mike……….Spirits produce “THEIR” own cognate thoughts they represent what their aspect of life is and certainly they will produce their own particular kind or type of life in a Person which will drive that persons will after all they are influencing life forces. But are the individual “persons” with their own many aspects of reasonings as we…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 02 2012,07:12)Hi GB, What are your sources? Not scriptureNick…………Can you see the scripture I quoted . Here is another one for you, and this time read it carefully please. Mat 17:21….> Howbeit this “KIND” goes not out but by prayer and fasting.Nick did you notice the Word “KIND” why did not Jesus say this…[Read more]

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    Mike……….The man was completely taken over by those spirits (IN) Him and he spoke their words , all spirits want bodies to live in and control, they desire bodies to live (IN) or they go about in “ARID” (dry) places looking for rest, they produce what their particular aspect of Life (IS) either clean or unclean. Doesn't it say for the spirit…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 01 2012,09:13)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 29 2012,19:46)It was the man who ask him to swear to God he would not torture him Because Jesus had said to the “MAN”, for the evil spirit to come out of HIM.Hi Gene,Was it the man who asked for permission to go into the pigs?Mike….Yes it was the mans Mouth those unclean Spirits…[Read more]

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    Nick……….Yes and so says Jesus and scriptures also. IMOpeace and love to you and yours Nick………………………………………………..gene

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    Nick………..God said it Need Proof………….>  Gen 3:22…> And the LORD God said “Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil;]and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take of the tree of life, and eat. and “LIVE FOREVER”:Now Nick did God say that or your SATAN say it. Man could have lived forever had Adam eaten of the…[Read more]

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    Nick………..God himself (IS) a SPIRIT a “type and Kind” of Spirit , God is not a PERSON as you assume. Why do you think Jesus said He spoke of the FATHER in proverbial (in fictitious illustrations) language. But a day would come when he would speak of the Father in a clear language. Is it becasue God the Father is a Spirit and Not a Person as…[Read more]

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    Nick………..If it does not say so then why do you “ASSUME” it” Do you think God is incapable of sustaining a Physical Body no matter where it is existing at in  heaven or on the earth,  Did He not say that Adam could take of the tree of Life and NEVER DIE, so he put a separation from Adam and the Tree of Life lest Adam take of the tree of L…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 30 2012,09:35)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 29 2012,05:48)Mike…………NO they are not “BEINGS” they are spirits…………Mark 5 6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. 7 He shouted at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? Swear to G…[Read more]

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