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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 2 months ago
EDJ the on;ly place it is mentioned is where it means a voluntary offering, an offering coming from the SELF, and there is no other place it mentioning the word “FREE WILL”, a Voluntary offing does not address the issue of us having a Will the is FREE within US, any honest person can see that EDJ. Why do you just gloss over all the scriptures i…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 2 months ago
EDJ……….So produce one Scripture that say Man has a Will that is FREE (IN) Him if you can, And we can talk EdJ.peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..Gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Nick……….Now who said that i sure did not say that, No man has seen God at anytime But i Know the invisible God exists , not by suppositions as many do, but by actually answering of my Prayers this is the invisible GOD Proof of His existence and It gives me MY FAITH (IN) HIM. tell me this, He that does “miracles” among you does He do it by…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 2 months ago
EDJ…………Look at what you wrote the answer is there for you.Influence…..> The CAPACITY TO HAVE AN EFFECT (that is what a WILL DOES) Will…………..> an (INTENDED) DESIRE. if it is (INTENDED) it is INFLUENCED. Simple you answered your own question A WILL is a DESIRE, Now what Causes that DESIRE, it it just FREE Thought or influenced…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 2 months ago
Edj……..Now that you posted what Liberty is can you now understand the difference between FREEDOM and LIBERTY . Liberty is to be Free “UNDER SOCIAL ORDER> While FREE is to HAVE NO Social order at all attached to it , No external or internal (influencing ) is implied with the word FREE while a WILL imply (influence) or it simply would not be a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Nick……….Have you ever been reminded of this truth of yours yourself Nick, if so please share it with us. When did you ever see a Demon or a “Ghost Spirit” or a Spook jump in and out of a person. Share your “TRUTH” which you say is “JESUS' Truth”. In fact show us where anyone you personally Know has seen this or for that matter anyone on t…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus was caught up to heaven in flesh body in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2012,20:01)Hi KW,The spirit that left Jesus at Calvary? The spirit that returns to God?That is just borrowed life. You mean the soul?Nick……….A “LIVING SOUL is a BODY with SPIRIT (IN) it, It just depends what Kind or type of Spiirt is working (IN) that Body. peace and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus was caught up to heaven in flesh body in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ June 12 2012,19:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2012,13:11)Hi KW, We who are body, soul and spirit, receive into our cleansed vessel, the Holy Spirit.Nick;That is true. The Spirit teaches our spirit in all things.Kerwin………….That is Correct, it is the Spirit that TEACHES our Spirit , Spirit is what give us our Cognate…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Mike…………So to you and everyone else When it say they THOUGHT they saw a Ghost or Spirit that to you and all the rest means they DID see a Ghost or Spirit right? How does a false assumption make anything real Mike to you and all the rest you say believes as you do here ? And by the way Jodi did not say she agreed with you at all , when…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 2 months ago
EDJ……….C E Lewis is wrong , if what he said is true them GOD has NO ACTIVE Part in our Salvation it is all up to US alone as all FREEWILL ADVOCATES believe, even though they do not openly say it. God said “He looked for “ONE” righteous Man and found NONE therefore he took it upon his own arm to bring salvation”. Why is that if we can…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 2 months ago
To All………..A fish in bowl of water will only do what All Fish in water do, Because Spirit (intellect) of GOD, directs its actions , Just as To say a WILL if FREE is an OXYMORON and Not one scripture say our Will are FREE, we have liberty to exercise our (INFLUENCED) or Captivated WILLS, Which we must put to death and learn by the influence…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Mike ……….Where did Jodi every agree with that at? Jesus said Spirit was LIFE and as far as i and every person on this earth Knows Life is Cognate THOUGHTS or Intellects that are expressed by or through words and the way we live life. t But of course to you and Nick Spirit are people and Beings jumping in and out of People taking control of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 2 months ago
Terricca………………..There exists no such thing as a will that is FREE, your confusing the word LIBERTY to EXERCISE our CAPTIVATED WILLS with those WILLS being FREE Brother. the Term Free Will is an “OXYMORON”, A Will would not even be a Will if it were free of influence and therefore becasue it is (INFLUENCED) it is not FREE> If find…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2012,11:28)So yes, I try hard to educate people like that about the THREE different possibilities of 1:1c, so they can then make a logical and informed decision for themselves, instead of blindly following what they think is the ONLY way 1:1c can possibly be translated.Mike…………You say there are “THREE” different…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (t8 @ June 09 2012,10:53)I respect an honest person who is able to answer any question even if it is, “I don't know”. Such a person is more likely to arrive at the truth in matters because their heart is good.T8……….Tell us do you do that also. Or is it just “others “need to? in order to just accept your teachings. Maybe we all need to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Nick………Spirits ARE our Minds intellects they give our minds its life. Had you understood what Jesus and Paul have said you could easily understand that. To you and Mike they are “BEINGS” or PERSONS, to me they are what life itself (IS)> They impart the intellects in our minds. The Spirit of truth imparts the truth in our minds and that…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2012,09:37)Okay Gene. The scriptures I've been posting (which clearly show your understanding to be flawed) seem to be of no consequence to you. It seems you are happy with the way you understand things, and no scripture is ever going to change your mind about it. So we have apparently reached and impasse for now.If s…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2012,01:33)Hi GB, Intellects COMPOSE our minds? No scripture for this but the gospel of GB.Nick…… What about So a man “THINKS” so he (IS)? Thinking is an analytical Process of the Minds intelligence in it.I sure hope you mind has intelligence in it or you would be a zombie or and Idiot right? Why do you always t…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 2 months ago
To All……..Paul seems to divide the workings of his MIND and the lustful drive of his BODY. He said with my mind i serve “the” law (commandments) of God but with my body the law of sin and death. It seem Paul came to realize there is a difference between them, He also goes further and say there was no good thing (IN) him(that is his body)…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Mike……… Our mind and Spirit are one becasue it is the Spirits that give us the (intellects) which compose our minds, “let this mind be (IN) you that was (IN) Christ Jesus our Lord” That mind is the Spirit of God which was also (IN) Jesus by way of the Christos or Anointing of GODS Spirit. The Brain and the Mind are two different thing…[Read more]
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