To all, this thread has a lot for us to understand, and we can all gain by understanding it IMO.

In my opinion there is ONLY, “ONE” TRUE GOD,  and there are no “little” gods,  but having said that,, you can make God’s to yourselves by treating any object as,  the word God implies . If anything  “TO “YOU” fit the description of the word mean…[Read more]

To all sorry for the mistake in my last post here , what I meant to say was most people look at the “return of Jesus Christ ” as what is written in Revelations about the return of God the Father..

Sorry .

Peace and love to you all……….gene

Jodi……So the “US” , Used there means God, and the Land, from the Hebrew text,  and  being that Man is formed from the dust of the land, and the breath of life from God ,  So, God incorporates the land as part of his creative works.  That does make sense Jodi, thanks.

Peace and love to you and yours Jodi………….gene

Keras……..You are right , the return of Jesus , will be proceeded by a HUGH CELESTIAL EVENT. Just as Jesus said would happen at his return.  Most people are looking at what is written in Revelations at what is to take place at the return of God the Father, because they don’t understand , the truth that John was carried by the Spirit to the Day…[Read more]

Proclaimer. …..That could be, because the sun and moon , is what causes the earth to produce or bring forth living things that we need to eat inorder to live,  but we will not need those things in order to live in that Day, because God himself will sustain our lives by his spirit dwelling in us, keeping us  alive for evermore.

Peace and love t…[Read more]

Mike…..W are all “like” YAHOVAH “our” God, in many ways, but that does not make us God’s,  even the whole creation itself desplays the “atributes” of God, because  he created it that way.  Having an atributes of God,  like “knowing good and evil” , dosen’t make anyone a God. Your confusing the words , “As” and “like” as meaning  “A GOD,”  that…[Read more]

Mike another thing playing the upper case GOD, and the lower case god thing,  is not true because there no little god’s   ALL OF OUR SCRIPTURES WERE WRITTEN ORIGINALLY IN “UPPER” CASE LETTERS ,  UNTIL about 900 years ago, as I recall. 

You have not yet come to the true MEANING of the word GOD.   READ , “THE MACHANICAL TRANSLATION OF Genesi…[Read more]

Mike…….by God saying the man would become as “we are”, does not mean the,  “WE”, are other Gods, or he would have said , as we “God’s are”.  You have inserted the word God’s there, but scripture doe not say “we God’s”  now does it?, so that is a assumption on you part,  but consider this,  that simply “knowing” or experiencing ,  Good and ev…[Read more]

Mike……Not knowing the exact definition of the “WORD” GOD is the most important thing , which you have ignored and acted like it not important to this topic.  But in fact if you are going to talk about God or as you believe God’s,  then first establish what the  word actually means is vital to this descussion.   I said God is not a person at a…[Read more]

Mike…….GOD the Father, who is Spirit, makes all things , “BY”, His Seven Spirits, the Seven Spirits “OF GOD”,   are the US,  mentioned there.  God the Father is the “word” , who sends forth his Seven Spirits into all his creation doing his work.  Remember what Jesus said,  “who soever has ears to hear, LET HIM  HEAR, “WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS”, [Read more]

Adam, ….I agree with most of what you have said , but one thing that the Messiah was not written about in the old testement , Moses clearly wrote about him , and told us to listen to what he was saying ,  And Isaiah described him and what he would do, which is exactly what Jesus did Do.  So we may have some differences on , that he was not m…[Read more]

Adam,  the reason the Jews hate it is because it’s a “Lie” , there is “ONLY” ONE “TRUE “God,  Just  as Jesus said ,  He even quoted the ‘SHEMA’ .  That was not only the Jew’s creed it was his also.  

If you take in consideration all Scripture and draw a summary,  you will see what I told you is true, because it fits , both the truth written…[Read more]

Adam…….No scripture properly understood says Jesus prexisted his birth on this earth,  that is a other example of twisting up what scriptures really says,   like this example. , “before ” Abraham I am,  here how false teachers present that , Jesus was saying,  he was “ALIVE” before Abraham , but does the word Alive appear there no it Dosen…[Read more]

Adam……The trip is in the actual translation of the Greek word, (dia) , it is used in two places in that sentence, that if misunderstood gives a wrong understanding to the whole sentence.

Let me paraphrase the way I see it, and it should  eliminate the confusion,  The First of the sentence  is correct just as it is written, but the second par…[Read more]

Mike…….Jesus did not say there are not other God’s, did he, he said there is “only” ONE “TRUE” GOD.  SO YOU POINT  of more then one God’s is true,  as I explained in the definition of the word God, what it actually means,  a ything can be a real God to a person,  anything a person puts his Trust and faith in and leans on it for his power , “IS…[Read more]

Mike…….Give me what your definition of GOD “IS” ,  IF YOU GET THE RIGHT DEFINITION  YOU WILL SEE what I am saying Mike.  Tey to get the “oraginal” Hebrew definition, it has been abridged over time . YOU SHOULD FIND , God’s  are not persons, they “anything you believe and trust in for your “power”.  THE WORD God Is a relationship,  with anythi…[Read more]

Mike……before you start, why not EXPLAIN what the word “SCIENTISM”  means, I have never heard of the word before you mentioned it here.

Peace and love to you and yours Mike……….gene

Mike…..God is the Father of all of mankind, that is if you truly believe what Jesus and other scriptures say, so your point is mute at best by scriptures many of them.

ALSO , being a son of God does not make you a God. The reason people get mixed up on that point is they,  do not know the real definition of the word “GOD”.   

THE WORD “GO…[Read more]

Mike……So you now believe what the blind Pharisee’s say?  Here is what Jesus himself said about who is God,  “this is eternal life , that they might believe you Father, the “ONLY” true God, and Jesus who you have sent” .   Now what does the word “ONLY” mean to you Mike? ,  to me that means there is “NO OTHER” , TRUE GOD , BUT ONE. [Read more]

Mike….what you quoted does not say Jesus was actually in existence before his birth on this earth , but that the plan concerning him did exist as a prophised being to come,  he was just as it said, was to come into his existence from Bethlehem  of the clans of the Jews, and it was planned from ancient times.

So you or anyone else haven’t p…[Read more]