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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Adam, ….I agree with most of what you have said , but one thing that the Messiah was not written about in the old testement , Moses clearly wrote about him , and told us to listen to what he was saying , And Isaiah described him and what he would do, which is exactly what Jesus did Do. So we may have some differences on , that he was not m…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Adam, the reason the Jews hate it is because it’s a “Lie” , there is “ONLY” ONE “TRUE “God, Just as Jesus said , He even quoted the ‘SHEMA’ . That was not only the Jew’s creed it was his also.
If you take in consideration all Scripture and draw a summary, you will see what I told you is true, because it fits , both the truth written…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Adam…….No scripture properly understood says Jesus prexisted his birth on this earth, that is a other example of twisting up what scriptures really says, like this example. , “before ” Abraham I am, here how false teachers present that , Jesus was saying, he was “ALIVE” before Abraham , but does the word Alive appear there no it Dosen…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Adam……The trip is in the actual translation of the Greek word, (dia) , it is used in two places in that sentence, that if misunderstood gives a wrong understanding to the whole sentence.
Let me paraphrase the way I see it, and it should eliminate the confusion, The First of the sentence is correct just as it is written, but the second par…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:18 in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike…….Jesus did not say there are not other God’s, did he, he said there is “only” ONE “TRUE” GOD. SO YOU POINT of more then one God’s is true, as I explained in the definition of the word God, what it actually means, a ything can be a real God to a person, anything a person puts his Trust and faith in and leans on it for his power , “IS…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike…….Give me what your definition of GOD “IS” , IF YOU GET THE RIGHT DEFINITION YOU WILL SEE what I am saying Mike. Tey to get the “oraginal” Hebrew definition, it has been abridged over time . YOU SHOULD FIND , God’s are not persons, they “anything you believe and trust in for your “power”. THE WORD God Is a relationship, with anythi…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Mikeboll's belief in a flat world 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike……before you start, why not EXPLAIN what the word “SCIENTISM” means, I have never heard of the word before you mentioned it here.
Peace and love to you and yours Mike……….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike…..God is the Father of all of mankind, that is if you truly believe what Jesus and other scriptures say, so your point is mute at best by scriptures many of them.
ALSO , being a son of God does not make you a God. The reason people get mixed up on that point is they, do not know the real definition of the word “GOD”.
THE WORD “GO…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike……So you now believe what the blind Pharisee’s say? Here is what Jesus himself said about who is God, “this is eternal life , that they might believe you Father, the “ONLY” true God, and Jesus who you have sent” . Now what does the word “ONLY” mean to you Mike? , to me that means there is “NO OTHER” , TRUE GOD , BUT ONE. [Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike….what you quoted does not say Jesus was actually in existence before his birth on this earth , but that the plan concerning him did exist as a prophised being to come, he was just as it said, was to come into his existence from Bethlehem of the clans of the Jews, and it was planned from ancient times.
So you or anyone else haven’t p…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Berean,, being called something dosen’t make you it. JUST is called the word of God because he tell us “what the Father tells him to tell us, not because he “IS” the word of God “HIMSELF”. This is why I have ask you before , do you actually believe what Jesus actually himself says. “The “words I am telling you are not my word , but the words…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike…..where was Jesus ever mentioned in the old testement, as a prexisting being? Did Jesus ever say he was alive before his berth on this earth, just one scripture where he apsolutely said the, I and not talking about scriptures that say he was prophesied to come into his existence, but where it say he was already existing as a actual b…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Proclaimer…….Wrong, they do not see Jesus tbe exact way they see other humans, nor do you. You and they believe he was a preexisting being, of some kind, that view just proves my point.
You or they have never proved at any time any activity of Jesus before his birth on this earth ever.
To say you and others here see Jesus as a ordi…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
To all, what is the greatest value of seeing Jesus as a flesh and blood human being, who, came into his, “ONLY”, Existence, exactly as we have?
1……THEN, we know he had no advantage over us, and his “overcomming”, this world , must be the same exact same way we have to overcome it. THE EXACT SAME WAY, WITHOUT EXCEPTION OF
[Read more] GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 9 months ago
Adam…….God “alone” “IS” eternal life, , That is why he alone is the “tree of life” all that have the Spirit of him (God the Father), dwelling “in” them, have eternal life abiding “in” them. The only thing we need is a new body, which we get at the resurection . Remember what Jesus said , “you, “must” be “BORN”, again. Adam try to see…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 9 months ago
Miia, that is the hope of us all someday we will also have eternal life, but I very much doubt we will ever be a God. AND ALWAYS REMEMBER what Jesus said , ” I was “dead” and “NOW”, am alive for evermore. He never said he was alive in heaven , then morphed into a human body lived again and the died again and “NOW” is alive forever more did he?…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 9 months ago
Miia. ……Good to here from you again, hope everything is going well for you, Missed you.
Peace and love to you and yours Miia………….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic God has divine nature, but many teach divine nature is God in the forum GeneBalthrop 2 years, 9 months ago
Berean…….In the, “IMAGE” of God created he them, male and female created he them. So applying the word image to someone does not make you that thing, nor a God either.
Tell us if Jesus was and is God, why would he say., we could do greater works the he ever did? Why would scripture say, “he was the firstborn (into the kingdom of God)…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic God has divine nature, but many teach divine nature is God in the forum GeneBalthrop 2 years, 9 months ago
Berean…….My bible say in the beginning God “SPOKE” , it does not indicate Jesus ever “SPOKE” ANYTHING “IN” THE BEGINNIG, not a single word ever sujested Jesus nor his Spirit was even there.
Do you really think that you can take the Glory of what God the Father did, and give it to any human being that ever lived? You are stealing Glory…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic God has divine nature, but many teach divine nature is God in the forum GeneBalthrop 2 years, 9 months ago
Berean…….Your problem is you cherry pick our scriptures to the exclusion of the rest of them , and try to make your points, you can never get the real trite by doing that . You reject and fail to deal with scriptures that completely disagree with what you say, you force even the text you use to say what in fact they do say, this is how I k…[Read more]
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