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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 1 month ago

    Wakeup…………LIBERTY to Chose our desires and Having a WILL the Is FREE if INFLUENCES is quite different. It is a Satanic Spirit at work (IN) People that makes them think they have a will that is FREE. If God granted us a “FREE WILL” then he would find not faults with us becasue he created us with that So-called FREE WILL and want us to us…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (t8 @ July 01 2012,18:45)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,16:45)Fair enough.  Then do mean that he pre-existed as a sentient person or not?Love in Christ,MartyI will let Jesus answer your question. And I hope the reaction isn't the same as when the Pharisees heard this.”Before Abraham, I am”.T8…….Your are doing exactly what the Pharisees…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2012,01:32)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 01 2012,06:47)T8……..God is not FORM God is Spirit> Therefore the Text is referring to the Nature of Jesus, at the time of he earthly existence and Marty is right it is a Present Tens statement referring to his state at the time of his earthly existence.The context of what Paul…[Read more]

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    Wakeup…………I never said Angels weren't “real” creatures. Look up the word angels and it can imply an angel “being” or a human “being” as brought out here already , and either can be “messengers” or Angles of GOD. You are forcing what i have written to say what i have not said and it appears you are doing that with scriptures also brother…[Read more]

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    Nick…………..I agree brother.peace and love to you and yours Nick………………………………………gene

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    To all…….Where it says in Revelation that Jesus gave it to His angel to give to the Churches, that Angel or “MESSENGER” was JOHN and the message was to the Churches . John gave the churches the words given him by Jesus who recieved it from God the FATHER who is SPIRIT, therefore it says to him that hears what the “SPIRIT” is saying to the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 14 years, 1 month ago

    Ed J ……….Yes it is the Core why i believe will are not FREE at all but we are held captive by them, Paul said clearly that he believed there was not good dwelling (IN)his body because to WILL was Present. I have seen this working in my own life at times and bringing me into captivity to my own desires , It is not easy to overcome ourselves…[Read more]

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    Wake ……….All Spirit come from the out side of our Flesh including our own. The Sprit of a Satan is not a “BEING” working from the out side it is within a Person, because (IT) is Spirit. When Jesus called PETER SATAN he was talking to him not to some other elusive “BEING” creeping around jumping in and out of People as Most assume. Yes all…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    T8……..God is not FORM God is Spirit> Therefore the Text is referring to the Nature of Jesus, at the time of he earthly existence and Marty is right it is a Present Tens statement referring to his state at the time of his earthly existence.The context of what Paul said should tell you that. He was not talking about a time not of a preexistent…[Read more]

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    To all…………Satan is simply an adversarial Spirit in the book of Job ,(IT) could not get to Job becasue God had shielded Job form (IT'S) influence (IN) him and therefore in his life, until God removed the protection then (IT) was allowed to effect  Job. Spirits created by God that give us reasoning can be considered as a created son of GOD.…[Read more]

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    To All…………Consider this Satan is like saying the other side of the coin, so to speak in Logic.  Some one would say on the one hand it is this or that , then on the OTHER hand is this or that. The term Satan simply comes from a word meaning an ADVERSARY , in Spirit terms it is a ADVERSARIAL (SPIRIT) or intellect giving us another opinion…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Mile………We all can seen God , through the Spirit (intellect) that is (IN) us , Just as Jesus did and does. Your error is you are making Spirit a Person or “BEING” (IT) is NOT> As through the eye of your understanding , God can not be physically seen now or ever will be either. God is a SPIRIT and Spirits are not “BEINGS” they are (ITS) ,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2012,11:34)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2012,00:36)Terricca…………Yes an “EVIL” adversary is an EVIL Spirit (intellect) working in the childern of disobedience.  Which makes them SATANS or DEVILS to GOD and Jesus.  The Spirit of Disobedience is a “PROPENSITY” all men have (IN) them, “IT” causes them to sin and it i…[Read more]

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    Mike……….Not just and ADVERSARIAL SPIRIT , but and “EVIL” ADVERSARY SPIRIT, and Adversarial Spirit may not alway be evil or dad, it can be used for correction, it depends on the type it is. for “ALL” that is in the world , the (lust) of the eyes , the (lust) of the flesh and the (pride) of life are “FROM THE WORLD”. John tells us. Saying a…[Read more]

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    To All…….To me the clearest scriptures that describe Jesus return is found in Luk 21:25……An there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars: and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26, Mens hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2012,07:06)Hi GB, Jodi who? Is she an anointed teacher?Should we follow folk other than Jesus Christ?Nick…………Joid was the one who started this thread Nick, I believe Jodi was given that understanding from God and as far as her being anointed or Not you nor anyone here knows that, but i believe she has expressed…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………Yes an “EVIL” adversary is an EVIL Spirit (intellect) working in the childern of disobedience. Which makes them SATANS or DEVILS to GOD and Jesus. The Spirit of Disobedience is a “PROPENSITY” all men have (IN) them, “IT” causes them to sin and it is like a LION Crouched at the Door of all mens hearts and must be mastered,…[Read more]

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    T8………….Adam contacted me and ask if he could get his posting rights back, can you help in this matter.peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………………gene

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    To All…………When all thing are said and done, the only thing that will drive us forward is the Fuel of FAITH , if we are taking this fuel in our vessels now, when the time come we will have what it takes to go into the wedding feast, when the call comes at midnight into the wedding feast at the return of the Bridegroom. Faith is the fuel for…[Read more]

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    To all………..This is the way Paul puts it.1 Cor 13;1……….> Though I speak with the tongues of men or angels, and have not LOVE, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2, and though i have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though i have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and…[Read more]

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