Mike……….I have quoted directly to you the Words of Jesus, and you still “BLOW THEN OFF” But hold on to the as you say, “PAGAN CRAP” , You can not seem make your understand fit unless you add to scripture as You do with John 1:1, Philippians, and so on adding meaning to what is “SPECIFICALLY SAID, which changes the true teachings. I quoted…[Read more]

Mike………..First you have to come to know what is truth and what is not , Many speculate on what scripture is saying and believe all kinds of false concepts of Demon and Devils and Satans . If you believed the word of Jesus you would Believe what He called PETER and start to think about it Mike. Jesus was not talking to some other creature or…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 13 2012,06:20)Gene,It depends on the context. I see two on the highest throne and the rest surrounding the throne. All with the Spirit are a unity of sorts but not all are in unity as the supreme authority. I believe that the Father and the Son are in unity as our supreme authority. Do you believe that you will be a member…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 14 2012,07:39)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 13 2012,00:35)Kerwin……….Jessu did not talk about Beelzebub that was the Pharisees and their Pagan precept they had recieved form the pagan over the years, nowhere in Scriptures is a Beelzebub mentioned by any of God true Prophets or leaders,  all MYTHOLOGY about devils and…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2012,04:51)Mt 4:11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him. Mt 9:32 As they went out, behold, they brought to him a dumb man possessed with a devil.To All……….Ask you selves is it (THE) DEVIL or (A) DEVIL  I maintain all devils are (A) type or kind, and when the Definite…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2012,10:38)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 12 2012,07:03)Mike………this is where You and I greately disagree……………It is not just me you disagree with, Gene.  It is everybody on this site, and the very scriptures themselves.  Now you go as far as to say God Himself is not even a being, but an “IT”?  That's too mu…[Read more]

Kerwin……….Jessu did not talk about Beelzebub that was the Pharisees and their Pagan precept they had recieved form the pagan over the years, nowhere in Scriptures is a Beelzebub mentioned by any of God true Prophets or leaders, all MYTHOLOGY about devils and demons came from Pagan origins. Jesus never said a Beelzebub ever existed that was…[Read more]

Lightenup…………the “US” is ALL who have the SPIRIT of GOD (IN) them , Not just Jesus and God the Father as you assume it to be. Or haven't you read where Jesus said to the Father “that they all might (ONE), I in You and you in me and and we in them. It is all ONE and the Same Spirit (intellect) that is in God Jesus and all who have (IT) in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 12 2012,11:01)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 11 2012,08:25)They all want to live in a BODY in order to animate it.Once again Gene,If spirit #49582 WANTS to live in a body, then that spirit is a BEING, for only sentient BEINGS can want things.If spirit #958473 DESIRES to make me do evil, then that spirit is a BEING, for only…[Read more]

Terricca………..I tis not “WHO” is Christ , it is “WHAT” is CHRIST, Christ is the Anointing or CHRISTOS that was ON and IN Jesus (IT) was GOD the FATHER HIMSELF who through the ANOINTING was “REALLY” (IN) Jesus and was Speaking “THROUGH HIM and sometimes in the “FIRST PERSON” as i have brought out here many times. Some of the Things Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2012,09:49)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 10 2012,06:45)Mike……..Another misquoted scripture, My Bible says “Satan has desired you to sift you as wheat”   You insert the words “asked to sift him”,  as if He as a Person went to God and Asked him for Peter. Pure conjecture on you part Mike.Gene, All I did was copy and p…[Read more]

Wakeup………So then to you the Devil is a SERPENT or SNAKE Right? Those are Physical creatures and I highely doubt that a Satan is a Real SERPENT. That is the problem with trying to make a Metaphor in to a real as a Person or Animal. You can not understand Genesis without understanding the Symbolism used . There is no real Serpent “Animal”…[Read more]

Quote (journey42 @ July 10 2012,19:11)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 10 2012,01:32)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2012,06:01)He also seems to be ignoring a lot of Wakeup's points and questions.Mike……….A lot of brother or sister Wakeup is saying is making assumption of what scripture is actually saying , which is forcing the text to say what it is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2012,13:18)Luke 22:31“Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift you as wheat.Gene, was this an adversarial spirit from God asking God to sift the Apostles as wheat?Mike……..Another misquoted scripture, My Bible says “Satan has desired you to sift you as wheat”Mike that is what a Satanic Spirit does to all of us, (all) S…[Read more]

EDJ……….I know that scripture but i believe it was referencing a sudden removal of His presents (IN) him, Not a Physical thing at all, who do you know that has ever seen a Satan “BEING” ever as far as that goes. Jesus gave us Spiritual Principles to relate with Spiritual things, Look no one has seen God we are told and no one has seen a…[Read more]

EDJ………….NO I am not suggesting he was wrong in giving us “LIBERTY” to exercise our “captivated” WILL,  How else could we come to “KNOW”  what is right and wrong? Notice i used the Word “KNOW” that does not imply just a Knowledge about something, but a Knowledge about something by having a inmate relationship with something. There is a d…[Read more]

EDJ…….YES ,If that is the “SPIRIT influencing us and act act according to that Spirit (intellect). WE all can and have been a Satan at some time in our lives Brother. IMOpeace and love to you and yours……………………………………………………..gene

Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2012,01:47)Quote (seekingtruth @ July 09 2012,21:37)To all:We do not receive all truth at salvation, it is a lifelong search that few, if any, even begin to scratch the surface of understanding all there is to know. So remember, some are ahead, and some behind in the process or their knowledge may be in different areas.…[Read more]

Mike……….Any commentary will tell you that Jesus was talking about His origin Not some tricky wording as you assume it is. Jesus is also as David from the ROOT of JESSE , Need proof? Isa 11:10….> And in that day there shall be a “root” of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2012,06:01)He also seems to be ignoring a lot of Wakeup's points and questions.Mike……….A lot of brother or sister Wakeup is saying is making assumption of what scripture is actually saying , which is forcing the text to say what it is not actually saying much like you do in my opinion . Adding a word or thoughts…[Read more]