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    Colter………..ha-Satan is indeed a proper name that describes a “SPIRIT” , Just as Wisdom and Love is, even though Scripture presents them as “BEINGS” are they not both Called “Shes”. So in your thinking Love and Wisdom are Proper “BEINGS” Right? Can you explain the difference? All are “PERSONIFIED” in scriptures. Think about itpeace and…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ July 19 2012,23:30)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 19 2012,01:16)Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,00:36)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 16 2012,10:18)Terricca…………..Satan is from the Hebrew word “ha-satan” and is translated in Greek as Diablo or DEVIL , as i understand it and they are the Same in meaning, and that can be anyone,…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 19 2012,10:50)Quote (kerwin @ July 18 2012,01:45)David,You are most likely correct as the Evil One is called by the name “Satanas” in Luke 11:18.  He also seems to be called Beelzeboul  who originally was Lord of the high places; but later was reduced to Lord of the flies. Daemons appear to be the flies according to Luke 1…[Read more]

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    Colter………I am not ED , and As for the Bible Presenting a Satan as a Personality Reality correct, and exactly what is a Personality , is it not a TRAIT found in different People or “BEINGS”. The Bible present Many Personality “Traits”, in a “Personification” Way, ie, Wisdom , Love , are called a She are we to believe that they are She…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Pierre……….Everyone that is Blind think those that disagree with Him is Blind, But as Jesus said if the blind led the blind they both shall fall into a ditch Both Trinitarians and Preexistence are in the Ditch already, and My hope is “YOU” and others will come to the Light and see that someday. But that will take the LIGHT of the CHRISTOS…[Read more]

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    Colter……….Excuse me “your Guys” When did i ever say Satan was a GOD of anything or the REAL GOD was diminished, weak, in the background, Don't drag me into that, you obviously are confusing me with someone else> None of you Post has anything to do with the way I see a Satan at all. You need to be more direct and address you commit to those…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,00:36)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 16 2012,10:18)Terricca…………..Satan is from the Hebrew word “ha-satan” and is translated in Greek as Diablo or DEVIL , as i understand it and they are the Same in meaning, and that can be anyone, even PETER was, Jesus called HIM SATAN> The word diabolical (deceitfully wicked…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ July 17 2012,23:32)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 17 2012,00:25)T8………Surely you Jest, where is the Word “JESUS” written in John 1:1 , isn't that a little hypocritical of you brother when that is exactly what PREEXISTENCES all DO .  IN  Philippians Paul is clearly talking about Jesus Preexistences on this EARTH during his day b…[Read more]

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    To All………….Colter “accused” us of worshiping our Bible but He worships his “Urantia Revelation” garbage , talking about the Pot calling the Kettle Black. He presents himself as an accuser of the Brethern which best matches the description of you know who. peace and love to you…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Terricca………..Produce your scriptures to support what you are saying and we can deal with them. Jesus was indeed form above but he said His disciples were also from above, So are we to believe the Disciples also came from God at a Prior existent time and came to this earth as you Preexistence and Trinitarians preach? Jesus was from above in…[Read more]

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    Wakeup……….How about when Jesus said He was SON of MAN over 80 times does that mean anything to you. Question is in what way was Jesus a Son of GOD, and in what way are we called Sons of GOD also. peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………………………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Terricca……….Brother i also believe it that way too. Marty has give sound logic to what scripture is saying on this subject IMO> So why should i not show my agreement with his on this?  God knows my heart Pierre and i say what i do believe and he knows that also. I have ask time and time again for anyone to produce any activity of Jesus…[Read more]

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    Mike………..Are you telling us you and Colter make a Match Brother. Follow him and you will really see what “gymnastics and rationalizations” of the “Urantia Revelations” are all about that is for sure. Colter has no idea what he is saying or talking about, if anything he is the most deceived person here IMO, Just Because he goes against me…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (942767 @ July 13 2012,13:37)Quote (t8 @ July 12 2012,09:52)Quote (942767 @ July 09 2012,15:53)He was a human being but not just any ordinary human being.  He was “the Christ, the Son of the Living God”, but although he was in the form of God in this position, the scripture that he did not use this fact to make himself a reputation, but he…[Read more]

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    T8………Surely you Jest, where is the Word “JESUS” written in John 1:1 , isn't that a little hypocritical of you brother when that is exactly what PREEXISTENCES all DO .  IN  Philippians Paul is clearly talking about Jesus Preexistences on this EARTH during his day before Jesus died and went to heaven , not Prior to that time, but you p…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Mike……..Was ADAM a SON OF GOD, Created by God himself? So then Jesus was Not a MONO-GENES Son of GOD , while he was a “UNIQUELY” Born HUMAN Being he certainly is and was not the only son of God, Now or before His berth either as Scripture in many places testifies. You are confusing his status as the The “FIRST” and Only one “thus far” raised…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………..Satan is from the Hebrew word “ha-satan” and is translated in Greek as Diablo or DEVIL , as i understand it and they are the Same in meaning, and that can be anyone, even PETER was, Jesus called HIM SATAN> The word diabolical (deceitfully wicked ) comes from it.  You are confusing Spirits with Person and Beings as Mike does…[Read more]

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    Mike…………I know none of Us has “ALL” the TRUTH today in this sea of false teachings taught for thousand of years > But Brother who is to say we have to have all the truth to be saved in the first place? We are hopefully growing in “FAITH” and “TRUST” in our LIVING GOD and Jesus our Brother and also Growing in “KNOWLEDGE”,  But that is a…[Read more]

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    Wakeup………Why a “BOTTOMLESS” Pit? The answer to that question will explain what a Satan (IS) . Remember the word “bottomless” means there is no end to (IT)> The term Satan is a term for an Evil Adversarial “Spirit” and becasue it is SPIRIT it can not Die but (IT) be contained By GOD, And the reason it is portrayed in a “Bottomless” Pit is…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD………..You seem to understand about the false teaching of the Doctrine of the Trinity That is a BIG Plus Brother.peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………….gene

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