Edj………..Where is Scripture that says that at?, In my bible God said I am that I am . So is God and “Lucifier” on and the same in understanding? I have seen where some say that is translated as He Exists becasue He Exists or similar to that> But where in “OUR” Scripture is Lucifier called and I am . Please post them> Peace and lvoe to…[Read more]

EDJ……………………..This is pure GARBAGE created from  minds of false Philosophers They believe if they can use and make up all kinds of scenarios they can impress us by their “CARNAL” Philosophizing to think they Know what they are talking about. WE need to keep our understand simple and Clear, in line with the scriptures we all Have.…[Read more]

Edj…………So many words, so little Said> is the BOOK of Urantia. Dump that garbage and stay on track with the Scriptures we already Have Brother. IMOpeace and love to you and yours EDJ………………………………………………..gene

Colter…….> I simple quoted a Scripture and you try to make it out to say God is Both Good and Evil , who said that? What (IT) said is GOD “CREATES EVIL” your denial of “HIS” Words To meet your own Urantia Theologies is the real problem Here, not ME or What i have Quoted or said. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 22 2012,03:41)[Gene, does this say God will save everyone, no matter what they choose by their own free will to do?  Or does it say, “If you CHOOSE to be unfaithful, then BAD will happen to you, but if you CHOOSE to return to God, then GOOD will happen to you?  WHO makes that choice, Gene?Mike……..the question is not t…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 22 2012,12:53)Quote (Ed J @ July 20 2012,03:40)Hi Gene,Are you suggesting that Job asked YHVH to create problems for himself?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgGene?EdJ………..Job Himself had the Problem a problem of “SELF” Righteousness, that could have easily cost his His eternal life in the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 22 2012,04:13)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 21 2012,08:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2012,10:32)Philippians 3:20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus ChristMike………..Here is your answer.“the son of Man can do “nothing” of “himself” the Father who is 'in” Me “HE”…[Read more]

Colter………..Lying about what i said is not right, and id did not say that it is written in the TRUE SCRIPTURES. What It says is GOD CREATES EVIL . But you counter Him and say he does not Then you falsely say i am saying God is EVIL something I never Said. You own “Philosophies” got you mind so screwed up you can”t even follow who said what…[Read more]

Wakeup………..> Let me paraphrase it for you, Jesus said,  you must “EAT” (take to yourself) my flesh to have eternal life. That means apply his sacrifice of his Flesh for and to  you own self for the forgiveness of Sin. We are told also we must Drink (take to ourselves) His Blood too. That is all that is required, and nothing there has to do w…[Read more]

To ALL………..A KEY is to truly understand what Spirit (IS) , it will open up many many Scriptures to us all. Spirits are not “BEINGS” they are what is (IN) BEINGS.  IMOpeace and love to you all………………………………………………………..gene

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2012,12:23)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 20 2012,09:46)you own Wills are  “free” and therefore separate from God's WILL, your salvation is from your own “freewill s” and therefore it is your own salvation by your own freewill choices, You have not need of a God you are a God unto yourselves, and follow and worship you…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ July 21 2012,07:40)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 21 2012,02:24)Quote (Colter @ July 20 2012,07:01)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 20 2012,02:10)Colter………..ha-Satan is indeed a proper name that describes  a “SPIRIT” , Just as Wisdom  and Love is, even though Scripture presents them as “BEINGS” are they not both Called “Shes”. So i…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 21 2012,23:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2012,12:07)Revelation 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.Matthew 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are curse…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2012,10:32)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 20 2012,08:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 20 2012,06:53)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 19 2012,08:31)Creating a Different God was only what was in the minds of those “Ignorant” “Superstitious” People.Gene,You cannot believe that Jehovah is the God OF gods unless you also believe that…[Read more]

Pierre……….I tell you no matter who many scriptures you or anyone of us Know it will not Produce a ounce of Faith or Belief all, true believers are from above and given their Faith From God Himself ALONE, it doesn matter if I or you never read ONE scripture we still could be taught by GOD who is the Giver of true Faith. Many Saint Have never…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 20 2012,08:08)Quote (Colter @ July 19 2012,14:01)So  in your theology God creates an evil spirit, that runs counter to his own will?That IS what you teach, right Gene?  That might stem in part from your refusal to believe in free will.  If you believed in free will, then you would be able to understand that God created al…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ July 20 2012,07:01)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 20 2012,02:10)Colter………..ha-Satan is indeed a proper name that describes  a “SPIRIT” , Just as Wisdom  and Love is, even though Scripture presents them as “BEINGS” are they not both Called “Shes”. So in  your thinking Love and Wisdom are Proper “BEINGS” Right?  Can you exp…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 20 2012,14:54)Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2012,07:07)Quote (kerwin @ July 19 2012,01:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 18 2012,08:04)Yes Kerwin,That is what the FIRST part of the passage says exactly.  Now you just have to work out how “and was made in the likeness of a human being” fits into your understanding.  Because you are t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 20 2012,06:53)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 19 2012,08:31)Creating a Different God was only what was in the minds of those “Ignorant” “Superstitious” People.Gene,You cannot believe that Jehovah is the God OF gods unless you also believe that other, lesser gods exist.  You cannot believe that Jehovah is the MOST HIGH God…[Read more]

Jeremy…………Welcome Brother, Hope you stay here is Beneficial. My understanding of the Word God is that word GOD is a POSITION , and Not a Person and the Word LORD is come from the Name Yahweh.  What helps me is a quote Jesus used from the Hebrew Scriptures,  “Here O Israel the “LORD” (Yahweh)  our GOD is “ONE” LORD (Yahweh) this  shows “Ya…[Read more]