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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2012,11:18)But it doesn't say “before Abraham I am”, as in “I am before Abraham in position”. Instead, it says, “before Abraham EXISTED, I have been”.In order for “position” to be the meaning here, the word “existed” must vanish from the scripture. Would you like to re-write the scripture without that word, Gene? …[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2012,11:44)Gene,That was yet ANOTHER of your novels, telling everyone else that THEY don't understand what spirits are.I was asking for DIRECT answers to the questions. Are you able to give them?Mike………That was no Novel it was a direct answer only you seem unable to understand it>Peace and love to you and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Wake up are you saying you don't “REASON with in yourself about things and if Not then what do you do, Reasoning with yourself is a “form” of speaking to one self and it is with Word you are reasoning with rather you believe it or not, try reasoning without word in you mind>. Who said i was hearing voices i never said the But the Spirit of a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Mike………The reason i have to go to such lengths is becasue of your and others lack of understanding what a “SPIRIT” even IS. Spirits are LIFE (ITSELF) Not “Beings” They give off their own “cognate” parts of Life . They come in KINDS and TYPES, When we are told to Judge the Spirits to see if they are from God, what does that mean to you? A…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic ‘i am’ is lucifer’s ‘title’ in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Wakeup @ July 27 2012,08:56)I am not ignoring anything.First of all you must understand that some prophesies has a dual meaning.In isiah God was speaking to the king of babylon and satan inside him.(speaking to both).And in Eziekiel God was speaking to the king of tyrus and satan also inside him.The king of tyrus was a very proud and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic ‘i am’ is lucifer’s ‘title’ in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
EDJ……….So when the roman Solider came to take Jesus and ask which one was Him and he said I AM That meant He was you Satan? It says they fell backward and many think that meant because he was the Great I AM, GOD ,but they fell to understand, the Solders fell backward and Prepared for an attack by his disciples. The term to fall backward…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Ed J @ July 26 2012,05:08)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 22 2012,02:49)Wakeup………..> Let me paraphrase it for you, Jesus said, you must “EAT” (take to yourself) my flesh to have eternal life. That means apply his sacrifice of his Flesh for and to you own self for the forgiveness of Sin. peace and love to you and y…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic ‘i am’ is lucifer’s ‘title’ in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Wakeup @ July 26 2012,03:58)16……. They that “SEE” you shall narrowly look upon you, and consider you, saying , is this (now Notice) the “man” that made the earth tremble, That did Shake Kingdoms. ………….>Wakeup………Why do you and others ignore this part the “MAN” that made the earth tremble . You not understanding that God…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Wakeup @ July 26 2012,23:01)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 26 2012,03:17)Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,09:01)Hi Gene,Who was the one that questioned Job's loyalty to YHVH? (please pick one)1. God2. Satan3. JobGod blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEGJ……….It was ha-satan, an Adversarial “SPIRIT” one of God SEVEN…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (terraricca @ July 26 2012,04:28)Quote (Wakeup @ July 26 2012,11:15)Gene B.Now there was A DAY WHEN THE SONS OF GOD CAME TO PRESENT THEMSELVES BEFORE THE LORD,AND –SATAN–CAME ALSO AMONG THEM.(he came from where)?AND THE LORD SAID UNTO SATAN——-(God said to himself).So satan came from where and roaming around where?satan can hear and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
To All………the Word BEFORE can be rendered in two way, as in Time or Place. Example,I shall pass “BEFORE” You. As God did Moses, this is a PLACE or POSITION meaning in front of.I shall go before the Court, again a PLACE of POSITION, has nothing to do with Time at all>I shall go before the Court before 10:00, that implies “both” Position and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago
Wakeup……………Yes People are destoryed because of lack of Knowledge , Look at our Country (US) being destoryed by Sorry Leadership , they change the Law of our fathers, Removed Tariffs allowed the Rich Corporations to go to other Country and Pay starvation wage while loosing million of Jobs Here then allowing them to send there products…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,09:01)Hi Gene,Who was the one that questioned Job's loyalty to YHVH? (please pick one)1. God2. Satan3. JobGod blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDJ……….It was ha-satan, an Adversarial “SPIRIT” one of God SEVEN SPIRITS that go to and Fro through out the whole earth, as Revelation shows. …[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (kerwin @ July 25 2012,16:34)Jesus is greater than Abraham. A point Jesus was teaching to the unbelieving Jews when he teaches “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.” A point Peter also teaches us when he writes of the prophets search to see the day of Jesus' sufferings and the glory that would f…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Terricca……….You have correctly quoted it question is “I AM WHAT? I am written about in scriptures ?, I am before him in importance?, I am in the plan and will of God before him ?, I am existing as a living Being ? . Jesus did not say he was alive as a existing “Being” before Abraham now did He?, you Preexistences add that Part to the text.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic ‘i am’ is lucifer’s ‘title’ in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Wakeup @ July 25 2012,12:18)Quote (Ed J @ July 25 2012,09:12)Quote (Wakeup @ July 24 2012,21:54)So,what does Jesus really mean when he said; before Abraham was,I AM.wakeup.Hi Wakeup,”Father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.” (John 8:56)The problem (Lucifer) existed before Abraham.Jesus day was the destruction of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (terraricca @ July 23 2012,01:50)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 23 2012,08:29)Quote (Ed J @ July 22 2012,12:53)Quote (Ed J @ July 20 2012,03:40)Hi Gene,Are you suggesting that Job asked YHVH to create problems for himself?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgGene?EdJ………..Job Himself had the Problem a problem of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Beelzebub and demons in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (Ed J @ July 23 2012,02:01)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 23 2012,01:29)Quote (Ed J @ July 22 2012,12:53)Quote (Ed J @ July 20 2012,03:40)Hi Gene,Are you suggesting that Job asked YHVH to create problems for himself?God blessEd J Gene?EdJ………..Job Himself had the Problem a problem of “SELF” Righteousness, that could have easily cost his…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic ‘i am’ is lucifer’s ‘title’ in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 1 month ago
Edj……….How does that pencil out to mean the words I am equals Lucifier?That is forcing the text to say what in fact it is not saying EdJ. That is a big Problem here making something say what in fact is not “Specifically” Said Brother. That is kinda like the Preexistences and Trinitarians saying the word < WORD in John 1:1 is saying Jesus…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago
Quote (942767 @ July 22 2012,09:34)Hi Gene:We come to God with a repentant Heart, believing what he has done for us in the person of His Only Begotten Son and His Christ, that is we are saved by faith, but faith without works is dead.Jesus explained to his disciples what he meant when he made reference to eating his flesh and drinking his blood:He…[Read more]
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