Mike and Wakeup…………………..Well who is ignoring what I QUOTED out of Scriptures Me or YOU TWO>The very answer to you questions that you say i Ignored is in what i “QUOTED” YOU Bother. Satan is an ADVERSARIAL  SPIRIT (INTELLECT) , Just as GOD is a SPIRIT and either can “INDWELL” a Person and become Part of that Persons Makeup. You both…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2012,04:26)Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2012,02:25)In short, with the wrong voice, Jesus is teaching us that he is to be made perfect before Abraham is to be made perfect.Kerwin,That entire post was nonsense and a diversion from the point of discussion.Gene, look up John 8:58 in the Greek Interlinear.  Here is what the last…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ July 30 2012,09:47)This is the problem ;If they can not answer a question they simply ignore it,and go somewhere else.Where is that hunger for the truth? how can we ever learn more? we must be honest. what is the problem if some one knows more; its all given anyway its not our own doings.Greetings to you.wakeup.Wakeup and…[Read more]

Mike………..I believe God has Made distinct Spirits that are able to effect thing on this earth and these Spirits are (INTELLECTS) but as far as them being a Being as in a PERSON, I do not believe that. I Showed you all where God Made the four Spirits that go to and fro in the earth. Now you could say they are Beings, but they were called…[Read more]

To all………….By reading it in Greek it is easy to see No where is it saying that there was and difference From God and His words or sayings. Both were GOD and and all things came to be from that one God and no other. As i understand what the Greek is saying . peace and love to you…[Read more]

To all……….Would like you all to read John 1:1-15 , Just as it is shown in the GREEK (direct translation) which is right under the Greek words themselves , read it though and then see how staying with  the “ORIGINAL” direct word Meanings  changes the “SENSE” of Meanings.  For instance Notice the word (word) is not used by the Greek it is “S…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 29 2012,19:25)Mike,“Before Fred is to think, I am” has an inferred “to think” as it the subject of the conversation.   Many think Jesus said before Abraham was born, I am; though that infers Jesus is born.  Others translate it to “was” or another past tense verb even though the same type of verb can indicate something occ…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 29 2012,07:22)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 28 2012,12:46)Mike………..He added with you in his statement.And how does that change what the words “I have been” mean?Are you saying that it DOESN'T mean “I have EXISTED with you……..”?  If not, then what?Mike……….It doesn't change the words, “i have been” at all, but…[Read more]

Mike………..He added with you in his statement. So that defined what he meant , not just the words I have been If i were to try to draw a conclusion of that sentence with out the word “with You” is would be exactly what you are doing with the statement Jesus make when he said “ before Abraham I am that statement still lack saying what he was…[Read more]

To all……….Try ” Online Greek Interlinear Bible” This is what is on my Bookmarks. Lets all try to go there and work from it together I think this would be very interesting and helpful in making us to more like minded on scriptures. I thin the problem is there are so many different interpretation of what the original Greek was saying. Let all…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 29 2012,02:08)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 29 2012,09:03)To all………..I found a Greek Linear translation and am reading it and what a difference in the wording we have in our translations of what and how scripture in the original Greek was changed to meet our Language., Words like “beginning” , in Greek is “Origin”, and…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 29 2012,03:07)Hi Gene,Greek interlinears are good but there is plenty of evidence that the original NT was written in Aramaic/Hebrew. So an Aramaic interlinear would be better then. The way to find it is to go to here:  http://bible.cc/matthew/1-1.htm    and then put in your Bible verse that you want to read in the se…[Read more]

Wakeup…….He was re-quoting what i Quoted out of scriptures to him. I want to Know what is His Point he was making , sometime Pierre has a hard time letting us understand him becasue of the language barriers . I just want to know what the meant by what he wrote the is all> peace and love to you and yours…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 29 2012,02:15)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 27 2012,08:17)Mike………..If iI say Before Abraham EXISTED, I have Been, still does not work for you, because  I COULD ASK YOU ,  I have “been” what ?And therein lies the answer, Gene.If someone says “I have been…………BUSY”, then we know they are talking about being b…[Read more]

To all………..I found a Greek Linear translation and am reading it and what a difference in the wording we have in our translations of what and how scripture in the original Greek was changed to meet our Language., Words like “beginning” , in Greek is “Origin”, and “word” is “saying”, and “near” is “toward”, and on an on it goes hundreds if not…[Read more]

Terricca………… sorry I am not following you . Please try to clarify what you saying Brother.peace and love to you………………………………….gene

Carmel……….The three are one, in the Greek that is saying they are one and the same thing. God is Spirit, therefore  God is life and His own words are His own.  All of that is is what “ONE” GOD “IS” None of that is talking about Jesus as the word of God.  Jesus came by water and Blood Just as You did when you were Born.  Jesus is not God…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,15:23)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 28 2012,20:35)Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,10:30)Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,17:22)Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,01:26)wakeupQuote Terra.It means  you shall not SEE DEATH.How shall we not SEE death? ok, so next question “WHAT IS DEAD Terra.Now you are answering a question…[Read more]

EDJ……….I never said that , Satan is a Spirit that effect men thoughts is what i said. ha-satan is a adversarial (SPIRIT) and can be in anyone, that Kind of Spirit is effecting the whole world. Looking at (IT) as a PERSON is FALSE , Just like looking at GOD as a PERSON is also False, Jesus present God the Father that way but later said it…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,10:30)Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,17:22)Quote (terraricca @ July 28 2012,01:26)wakeupQuote Terra.It means  you shall not SEE DEATH.How shall we not SEE death? ok, so next question “WHAT IS DEAD Terra.Now you are answering a question with a question.Death means when you stop living,when you give up your last…[Read more]