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    CARMEL……He who Pharoah sent (Joseph ),  was above all,  in the land of Egypt, too, he  acted as the (agent)  of the (principle ) Pharoah.  He never was the Pharoah himself. The same thing applies to Jesus our brother in the Anointed of God the Father.

    We to are called to be (agents) of the, (MOST HIGH) , exactly like our brother Jesus , the…[Read more]

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    LU……Whose  “word” came to be the flesh man Jesus?   GOD THE FATHER’S (prophetic),  WORD,   Came into being, it was the “Flesh Man”, named Jesus Christ.   This scripture is not susjesting that Jesus was somekind of (preexisting) word of God, before he ever came into his existence,  as you people suppose.   

    God the Father did create Every…[Read more]

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    To all……Seeing Jesus as an (agent) of God,  is quite different then seeing him as God.  A (agent) is a representative or servant  of someone, or thing.  They are never the (principle) themselves. Therein lies the problem we deal with here.

    Trinitarians make Jesus out to be one of the (principles),  instead of an  (agent)  repre…[Read more]

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    Adam……Your getting the word “El” (most high in power) as a name of a person, that’s the error, the person called “the most high or “EL”, IS NAMED “YEHEOVAH”  El is a descriptor of who YEHEOVAH  is. The word is not a different perso`n.  “EL”, SHADAH IS “YAHOVAH ” OUR GOD.

    That is the way I see it Adam.

    Peace and love to you and yours Adam. ..…[Read more]

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    To All……Being an agent of someone is not being that person yourself ,  that’s the Error of the “MANY” , that the trinitarians teach.  It’s one thing to say an “agent” is a direct representative the “principle”,  but quite another to say the agent “IS” the priniciple.

    Remember what Jesus said, “many would come in my name,  “SAYING”, “I am” , a…[Read more]

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    To all…….Jesus never acted in the capacity of a Creator God at all never did he ever mention a prexisting life he had,  he only mentioned a preordained  Glory,  and other aspects of his life, which related to the prophecies regarding him,   that is all I have ever got from our text.

    What I believe is This,  Jesus was a human active  Servan…[Read more]

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    Adam……If you were rational then you would understand what “fallen Christanity” is saying is what is wrong , not what the “original” meaning of the text says.  No where does Jesus say there are other God, nor does he ever call himself a God of a kind, in fact he tells he is not God or a God of anykind .  He calls God the Father this “THE “O…[Read more]

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    Adam……I disagree with you on the idea that the New Testement was just for the Hebrews, alone. The apostle Paul who wrote most of the books, was an apostle to the Gentiles.  While the first to receive were the Jew’s only a 1/13 part of the nation of Israel , and they rejected it, as you seem to be now doing,  then came the Gentiles , after t…[Read more]

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    Berean……You mean , you don’t care about Science unless it meets your views, right?

    IN Genesis 1v2,  go and please check out the word (was) and you will find it can be  translated from the Hebrew word , meaning ….Became,  as in, came to be,   the words  (was) with (void) it could  mean……it became or came to be,  (bo’-hoo) meaning empty,…[Read more]

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    Mike…….scripture seem to indicate the earth became void.

    GEN 1v2…..And the earth (was) without (form),  and (void) ; and darkness was on the face of the deap.

    Hebrew words for (was)  and (form) and (void)

    (Was)…. a primitive root, to exist, that is (be “OR”  “BECOME”, as in CAME TO PASS .

    (Form)….a unused root  meaning to (lie waste;…[Read more]

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    Adam…….The word God is a ‘descriptor” of a relationship,  it is not a person or place or thing, it is ‘not’ a noun, so it must be accompany with a Noun,  which give you the object it is referring to . Like “your, mine, their, or like,  the God of this or that, the term has to be connected to an object, which it relates to.  The word God desc…[Read more]

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    Mike……My bible says,  God made them, “a “little” lower then the “angels”/”messengers.

    And it say God even made Jesus , “a “little” lower the the Angels/ messengers, also.

    But the bottom line is this you either believe it or not, remember, this is not me saying this,

    Isa 44:6    Thus says the LORD the KING OF Israel , and his redeemer the LO…[Read more]

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    Mike, Adam,   yes the are many GOD’S, If you understood the proper meaning of what a God is, that is easy to conclude , and they are not ‘little” god’s but they to those people are big GOD’S.  BECAUSE the word GOD is not a person of anykind, the word GOD IS A “DESCRIPTOR” OF A “RELATIONSHIP” with somethin, “anything” it is NOT the person or thi…[Read more]

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    Berean……..True 1 Cor 10:31 says , what ever we do we should give glory “TO GOD” , but everything  you said was to the Glory of The man Jesus,  not so much as a single word you said inclued God the Father,  almost everything Jesus did and said,  was the the GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    I see a “BIG DIFFERENCE” between your words and Jesus’ wor…[Read more]

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    Adam…….The problem is the use of the word God being applied to something by anyone,  bease the word God is a “descriptor of a relationship” you have with something,   “anything” that exists can be your God.  Why? Because the word God , does not show a person, but a relationship with “anything”.   So Buddha is the real God of Some, Baal others…[Read more]

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    Adam. ……the words,  “other lords”, there is (adoni),  that is meaning a human ruler of some kind,  But the LORD God , is (adonia) or YAHOVAH,  a personal name of “our” God.  Big difference in word meanings.

    Psa 110v1……a Plsm of David.,  “the LORD said unto my lord , sit you at my right hand, until I make your enimies your footstool. ”    [Read more]

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    Proclaimer. …..I agree with you and Adam, true Faith comes from the proof given by personal experiences,  “evidence” that God the Father gives you yourself personally.   Those who have not “proven” the existence of a real God, have “suppositions”,  told to them by others, which may be true or may not be.  True Faith is produced by personal expe…[Read more]

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    Mike,  the word heaven simply meaning  is sky, and  here is another indication there are more then one heavens

    Gen 10v14……..“behold the heaven, and the heaven “OF” heavens “IS”, the  LORD’S  thy God’s, the earth also, with “ALL” that “THEREIN ” is.  THIS INCLUDES MANKIND.

    So,  two things, that prove you wrong

    1………there “IS” more th…[Read more]

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    Mike……Maybe you missed it, but I did answer your question already .  I believe God was talking to his “Seven Spirits,”,   that go before the throne of God.  But as Jodi brought out what Jeff Benner a langustic Hebrew Scholar said,  The actual Hebrew was saying that he was talking to the earth, and there is merit to what he says, because the…[Read more]

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    What I find so interesting here is when I or others quote a clear scripture written exactly as in scripture , why don’t people on here agree with it?,  And if a person understands it differently, just show how it doesen’t mean that, and why it does not mean what is  exactly as written,  says.  I understand a scripture can take a different mea…[Read more]

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