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    Adam…….The word God is a ‘descriptor” of a relationship,  it is not a person or place or thing, it is ‘not’ a noun, so it must be accompany with a Noun,  which give you the object it is referring to . Like “your, mine, their, or like,  the God of this or that, the term has to be connected to an object, which it relates to.  The word God desc…[Read more]

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    Mike……My bible says,  God made them, “a “little” lower then the “angels”/”messengers.

    And it say God even made Jesus , “a “little” lower the the Angels/ messengers, also.

    But the bottom line is this you either believe it or not, remember, this is not me saying this,

    Isa 44:6    Thus says the LORD the KING OF Israel , and his redeemer the LO…[Read more]

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    Mike, Adam,   yes the are many GOD’S, If you understood the proper meaning of what a God is, that is easy to conclude , and they are not ‘little” god’s but they to those people are big GOD’S.  BECAUSE the word GOD is not a person of anykind, the word GOD IS A “DESCRIPTOR” OF A “RELATIONSHIP” with somethin, “anything” it is NOT the person or thi…[Read more]

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    Berean……..True 1 Cor 10:31 says , what ever we do we should give glory “TO GOD” , but everything  you said was to the Glory of The man Jesus,  not so much as a single word you said inclued God the Father,  almost everything Jesus did and said,  was the the GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    I see a “BIG DIFFERENCE” between your words and Jesus’ wor…[Read more]

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    Adam…….The problem is the use of the word God being applied to something by anyone,  bease the word God is a “descriptor of a relationship” you have with something,   “anything” that exists can be your God.  Why? Because the word God , does not show a person, but a relationship with “anything”.   So Buddha is the real God of Some, Baal others…[Read more]

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    Adam. ……the words,  “other lords”, there is (adoni),  that is meaning a human ruler of some kind,  But the LORD God , is (adonia) or YAHOVAH,  a personal name of “our” God.  Big difference in word meanings.

    Psa 110v1……a Plsm of David.,  “the LORD said unto my lord , sit you at my right hand, until I make your enimies your footstool. ”    [Read more]

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    Proclaimer. …..I agree with you and Adam, true Faith comes from the proof given by personal experiences,  “evidence” that God the Father gives you yourself personally.   Those who have not “proven” the existence of a real God, have “suppositions”,  told to them by others, which may be true or may not be.  True Faith is produced by personal expe…[Read more]

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    Mike,  the word heaven simply meaning  is sky, and  here is another indication there are more then one heavens

    Gen 10v14……..“behold the heaven, and the heaven “OF” heavens “IS”, the  LORD’S  thy God’s, the earth also, with “ALL” that “THEREIN ” is.  THIS INCLUDES MANKIND.

    So,  two things, that prove you wrong

    1………there “IS” more th…[Read more]

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    Mike……Maybe you missed it, but I did answer your question already .  I believe God was talking to his “Seven Spirits,”,   that go before the throne of God.  But as Jodi brought out what Jeff Benner a langustic Hebrew Scholar said,  The actual Hebrew was saying that he was talking to the earth, and there is merit to what he says, because the…[Read more]

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    What I find so interesting here is when I or others quote a clear scripture written exactly as in scripture , why don’t people on here agree with it?,  And if a person understands it differently, just show how it doesen’t mean that, and why it does not mean what is  exactly as written,  says.  I understand a scripture can take a different mea…[Read more]

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    To all, this thread has a lot for us to understand, and we can all gain by understanding it IMO.

    In my opinion there is ONLY, “ONE” TRUE GOD,  and there are no “little” gods,  but having said that,, you can make God’s to yourselves by treating any object as,  the word God implies . If anything  “TO “YOU” fit the description of the word mean…[Read more]

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    To all sorry for the mistake in my last post here , what I meant to say was most people look at the “return of Jesus Christ ” as what is written in Revelations about the return of God the Father..

    Sorry .

    Peace and love to you all……….gene

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    Jodi……So the “US” , Used there means God, and the Land, from the Hebrew text,  and  being that Man is formed from the dust of the land, and the breath of life from God ,  So, God incorporates the land as part of his creative works.  That does make sense Jodi, thanks.

    Peace and love to you and yours Jodi………….gene

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    Keras……..You are right , the return of Jesus , will be proceeded by a HUGH CELESTIAL EVENT. Just as Jesus said would happen at his return.  Most people are looking at what is written in Revelations at what is to take place at the return of God the Father, because they don’t understand , the truth that John was carried by the Spirit to the Day…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer. …..That could be, because the sun and moon , is what causes the earth to produce or bring forth living things that we need to eat inorder to live,  but we will not need those things in order to live in that Day, because God himself will sustain our lives by his spirit dwelling in us, keeping us  alive for evermore.

    Peace and love t…[Read more]

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    Mike…..W are all “like” YAHOVAH “our” God, in many ways, but that does not make us God’s,  even the whole creation itself desplays the “atributes” of God, because  he created it that way.  Having an atributes of God,  like “knowing good and evil” , dosen’t make anyone a God. Your confusing the words , “As” and “like” as meaning  “A GOD,”  that…[Read more]

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    Mike another thing playing the upper case GOD, and the lower case god thing,  is not true because there no little god’s   ALL OF OUR SCRIPTURES WERE WRITTEN ORIGINALLY IN “UPPER” CASE LETTERS ,  UNTIL about 900 years ago, as I recall. 

    You have not yet come to the true MEANING of the word GOD.   READ , “THE MACHANICAL TRANSLATION OF Genesi…[Read more]

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    Mike…….by God saying the man would become as “we are”, does not mean the,  “WE”, are other Gods, or he would have said , as we “God’s are”.  You have inserted the word God’s there, but scripture doe not say “we God’s”  now does it?, so that is a assumption on you part,  but consider this,  that simply “knowing” or experiencing ,  Good and ev…[Read more]

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    Mike……Not knowing the exact definition of the “WORD” GOD is the most important thing , which you have ignored and acted like it not important to this topic.  But in fact if you are going to talk about God or as you believe God’s,  then first establish what the  word actually means is vital to this descussion.   I said God is not a person at a…[Read more]

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    Mike…….GOD the Father, who is Spirit, makes all things , “BY”, His Seven Spirits, the Seven Spirits “OF GOD”,   are the US,  mentioned there.  God the Father is the “word” , who sends forth his Seven Spirits into all his creation doing his work.  Remember what Jesus said,  “who soever has ears to hear, LET HIM  HEAR, “WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS”, [Read more]

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