Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 29 2012,11:10)I've already answered your “quest” to me, Gene.  Jesus was telling us that God knows us inside and out – to the point of knowing the exact numbers of hairs on our heads.  He was pointing out that we are IMPORTANT to God, and not just like specs of sand on a seashore.Mike………..Point is why used a P…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 29 2012,11:07)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 28 2012,08:42)We are all INDIVIDUAL “HUMAN” PERSONS. But that has nothing to do our Identity different as far a “human being”  goes. Your preexistence teachings  Make Jesus different then we are in a HUMAN SENSE>But Gene,Jesus WAS different than us, even in a “human sense”.  How ma…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2012,11:25)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 27 2012,12:14)10………Right.11………Right.Gene,There is no point even arguing over the other numbers, because your own words have show that you are DIFFERENT from Jesus.Good, because that is what the Bible teaches.  Jesus was one of a kind Gene, not “exactly like us”.So…[Read more]

Mike………..Right, God can Create the DNA from what ever he choses, However it is the “EXACT” DNA of EACH INDIVIDUAL that Jesus was referring to Not Just a general sense of the Word but a “SPECIFIC” sense of it, he was referring to there individual physical existence.   each individual disciples Hair was Numbered . So their individual DNA was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 27 2012,03:42)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 26 2012,09:21)Mike…….The  Greek word “Psuche”  is where we get our word Physic from it has to deal with the Mind our thinking.Gene,This is from Dictionary.com:psyche 1647, “animating spirit,” from L. psyche, from Gk. psykhe “the soul, mind, spirit, breath, life, the invisible a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 27 2012,03:22)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 26 2012,08:47)You preach and believe they are persons as we are , But they are not they are Spirits and Spirits are not individual persons as you suppose they are.Gene, it seems we now agree that God, Satan, and the angels are individual BEINGS.  And since they are all SPIRITS, it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2012,06:29)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2012,09:26)Mike……..The word there is Spirit not Soul as you assume it is. Look it up in the GREEK.Gene,It is the Greek word “psuche”, which means “soul”, in most cases.  The Greek word for “spirit” is “pneuma”, not “psuche”.Mike…….The Greek word “Psuche” is where we…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 26 2012,03:09)If you want me to answer a question, then ASK a question.  Your novels telling me and everyone else that we don't understand spirit, or that we're trying to separate Jesus from ourselves, are not QUESTIONS, Gene.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 25 2012,08:44)Where have i said God and Satan are not…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2012,06:47)Kerwin, you are talking nonsense again.Ed, what word is the root word of “personality”?Gene, go write novels to someone else for a while.  You are the ONLY one on this site who believes God and Satan are not beings.  You are the ONLY one on this site that doesn't believe the scripture that tells us angels A…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 24 2012,08:10)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 23 2012,08:57)Mike……….Simple ……If God destroys the Body in the grave he also is destroying the Soul.  Why , becasue a “Living Soul” is a body with spirit of life in it.You're doing it again, Gene.  Your word “also” implies that the body and the soul are TWO different t…[Read more]

Mike………..God who is a Spirit can as all spirits can inter a person or leave them . Rather clean or unclean , There is a differences between a Soul, and a Spirit. a living soul is a individual Person, i.e a man, or angel, while a Spirit can enter a Soul and effect it life . As God was “IN” Jesus reconciling the world unto himself. Face it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2012,05:56)Gene, NO.  Jesus MANY times speaks about our Father, WHO IS IN HEAVEN.  As I've told you many times before, the Father being “in” Jesus, or “in” anyone else is metaphorical, and does NOT mean that the being of God Almighty was literally living inside any particular human being.Mike……….It is true that m…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 23 2012,07:38)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 22 2012,09:04)Mike……….Yes becasue Body and Soul are ONE and the same thing. When one dies so dies the other. Point is God can destory both…………Gene,How can you say in one sentence that they are the same thing, and then continue on to explain to us how God can destroy…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2012,05:35)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 21 2012,11:50)the SOUL his the spirit ;only God can destroyed it says JesusScripture says the spirit goes back to God who gave it, Pierre.  Would God destroy Himself?In Matthew 10:28, Jesus does NOT teach us to fear Him who can destroy both body and SPIRIT, does he?  No.  He te…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2012,05:56)Gene, NO.  Jesus MANY times speaks about our Father, WHO IS IN HEAVEN.  As I've told you many times before, the Father being “in” Jesus, or “in” anyone else is metaphorical, and does NOT mean that the being of God Almighty was literally living inside any particular human being.Mike……..You simply do not k…[Read more]

Mike……….Why don't you answer my last Post on the last page, is it becasue you have no answer. But worse yet why ignore what Jesus himself said over and over, is holding on to you own dogmas so important to you , even if it opposes the truth of what Jesus said?. I hope someday you will come to see the error of you “PREEXISTENCE” teachings,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2012,04:48)so let see your scriptures ??1.  The SPIRIT goes back to God who gave it.2.  The SOUL goes to Sheol to sleep with our fathers.3.  The BODY counts for nothing and decays.Ecclesiastes 12:7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.The “dust” refers to the fl…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 18 2012,07:31)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 16 2012,18:27)Mike………The Word of GOD came to be (IN) the flesh man Jesus the Christ……..No Gene, because that would require John 1:14 to say, “the Word came to be IN someone who was already flesh”.  But 1:14 clearly does NOT say that, does it?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 17 2012,12:07)geneI try to understand ;Quote The seven Spirit of God are not angels (messengers)  Pierre as you false assume they are, SPIRITS and SPIRITS are  “IT'S” They are what is (IN) Beings Not the Beings themselves Like a Soul or Person But what is (IN) them. this i can not understand so give me some scriptures ,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 17 2012,18:25)Mike,I believe that the soul is the life God breathed into Adam.  I also believe that the soul is made of spirit.  As the soul is spirit it is sometimes called spirit instead of soul; but it is not the only spirit.  I believe that the soul returns to God but I also believe it descends to Sheol/Hades.  This see…[Read more]