Quote (t8 @ Sep. 09 2012,11:30)The body is dead without the soul. The soul is dead without the spirit.God can destroy both soul and body forever. In fact this is the Second Death. The soul and the spirit is like bone and the marrow.When God breathed (spirit) into Adam, he became a living soul.His soul was not alive before that and the body was…[Read more]

Terricca…………. To say it is not in scripture is a  LIE,  i quoted directly from scripture. But you cant see the Points can you?, so You can quote a Hundred scriptures that have nothing to do with the Point i and Paul in 2 Cor 1:21 was making. What you do is try to divert attention from subject matter and then try to belittle what is said  …[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 08 2012,05:59)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 08 2012,10:45)Terricca…….> I do not expect you to believe me, but to deny the posted scriptures is another thing. We should not use scriptures to create “doubtful disputations” anyway, let every man be convinced in his own mind what he or she believes. So whatever Pierre, may…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2012,12:59)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 07 2012,10:11)It amazes me how you people do not even know what the word “SPIRITUAL” Means .  Here is another example of Spiritual  Rom 8:6…….For to be carnally minded is death; but to be “spiritually” minded is life and peace.Yes Gene,There are many scriptural meanings of “…[Read more]

Terricca…….> I do not expect you to believe me, but to deny the posted scriptures is another thing. We should not use scriptures to create “doubtful disputations” anyway, let every man be convinced in his own mind what he or she believes. So whatever Pierre, may God bless you and keep you Brother.peace and love to you and yours…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2012,09:41)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 06 2012,09:41)Paul was not dealing with a “TYPE” of BODY, except to the way it thinks, not a type of body, not being made up of Physical matter as you assume. But a type of MIND that is in that Physical BODY>1 Corinthians 15:35 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With w…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 06 2012,11:49)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 06 2012,09:33)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 05 2012,12:31)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2012,10:12)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,12:09)when are you going to understand that God does NOT reside in men or in any corrupted body or soul,only the devil likes to do that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 04 2012,12:07)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 03 2012,14:25)The words Spiritual Bodies are referencing how those BODIES are functioning, not a Body type, a Physical Body can be a Spiritual “functioning” Physical Body Mike.44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.  If there is a natural body, there is also a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 05 2012,12:31)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2012,10:12)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,12:09)when are you going to understand that God does NOT reside in men or in any corrupted body or soul,only the devil likes to do that ,Terricca…………Wrong God does indwell men, or haven't you read where it say that God may be…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 04 2012,12:09)when are you going to understand that God does NOT reside in men or in any corrupted body or soul,only the devil likes to do that ,Terricca…………Wrong God does indwell men, or haven't you read where it say that God may be all in all and through all God lives vicariously in and through his creation>…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 04 2012,12:10)Let's get this thread back on topic.Gene, to whom or what was Jehovah speaking when He had a conversation with “Satan” in Job 1 and 2?I say the individual spirit being named “The Adversary”.  What do you say?Mike……….The Sons of God ARE SPIRITS Just as  OUR Spirits are , except our Spirits are in our B…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 03 2012,03:44)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 02 2012,10:41)Mike………There  are No scriptures that  show any resurrection without a BODY, If so please post it.I don't know of any such scriptures either.  That was your friend Toby/Istari/JA's claim – not mine.  Yet you always took his side in the “Bodies” thread, didn't you…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,13:06)because if you say it is as Jesus says ,then Jesus must be God right ,or did Christ meant something else Terricca……….If God were “IN” you and you were doing “HIS WILL” , you could also say if you have seen me you have seen the Father also. Face it Pierre you do not believe the Father was truly “in”…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 03 2012,10:36)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,04:50)KQuote I can see Jehovah in Jesus using the same words  why because their is no other way to address men if you can see Jehovah God almighty in Jesus Christ ,you must have a vision problemT,In this case it is no vision problem; but instead it is seeing Jehovah, who is…[Read more]

Mike………There are No scriptures that show any resurrection without a BODY, If so please post it. I have many reason to think that our DNA is preserved From scriptures, that show a regeneration taking place. Notice i said as Jesus, a REGENERATION, not a Generation. And please don't tell me about speculations, after all all Trinitarians…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 02 2012,11:34)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 02 2012,08:42)Terricca…….I will give you your Scriptures but lets not say again i don't post scriptures because you fell to read or understand them OK>Gen 3:15…….> And i will put enmity  between you and the women, and between your seed  and her “SEED”  it shall bruise th…[Read more]

Terricca…….I will give you your Scriptures but lets not say again i don't post scriptures because you fell to read or understand them OK>Gen 3:15…….> And i will put enmity between you and the women, and between your seed  and her “SEED”  it shall bruise thy head, and you shall bruise his reelDeu 18:15…….> The Lord thy God will r…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 30 2012,09:12)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2012,09:00)Mike………..Point is why used a Physical thing like Hair to illustrate that Point…………Why not?  Hair is arguably the least important part of the human anatomy, yet God knows the exact number of them on everyone's head.The point is if God knows the exact…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 31 2012,14:30)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 31 2012,09:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 30 2012,11:38)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2012,08:49)Mike……….We could say the same about Adam and EVE, So in your understanding were they Different then the rest of Us Human also as far as Human Being go.Yes Gene,Like Jesus, Adam and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 30 2012,11:38)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 29 2012,08:49)Mike……….We could say the same about Adam and EVE, So in your understanding were they Different then the rest of Us Human also as far as Human Being go.Yes Gene,Like Jesus, Adam and Eve were created without sin.  All who came after them (except for Jesus) were…[Read more]