Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 14 2012,12:47)Hi Gene,Does this verse “mean” that David knew Jesus was of more importance too…”The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength (HolySpirit) out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.” (Psalms 110:1-2)God…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 14 2012,05:45)Spiritually Jesus comes from above since his Spirit does. Those that believe that the Spirit comes from above and that Jesus walks by it also believe he comes from above.Kerwin……..This is true Jesus “was from above in a “SPIRITUAL” sense” . His mindset was not on things of this world but thing from above…[Read more]

Kerwin…….Yes Jesus existed in scriptures before Abraham and is before him in importance also. That was Jesus' point it had nothing to do with His existence as a “Sentinel” Being of any kind. These people affirm that Jesus preexisted his berth on this earth , but have absolutely no idea of what they are saying , they must force the text to say…[Read more]

Kerwin………You are right apsolutly right. The man Jesus is the one God was speaking of , he is the heir of his   father king David's throne. Jesus plainly said he was the root and offspring of king David. No matter how hard these deceived separatist   Try to separate Jesus' human identity with his human Father and us they Can't , without d…[Read more]

T8………..Right the Spirit is what give us our intellects it is not a person but it is Cognate thoughts, rather clean or unclean rather holy or unholy, spirits are not persons they are what is (IN) Persons, A Living Soul is a “separate” individual Person who has Spirits in it. A dead Soul is a a “separate” Body with no Spirits in it. Just…[Read more]

T8………..Jesus was Promised  by GOD and others to Come into existence, He certainly was,  (from that perspective), from above, but so was Cyrus and John the Baptist and Jeremiah and Isaac (who is called the son of promise). they were also from above and Predestined to come into existence and do what God planned for them to do. What do you t…[Read more]

Pierre ………You mean a Will is related to his nature , nothing FREE about it it is a Biased Will that is working in us all , we are held captive by our will and there is nothing free about it. Your still confusing our Liberty to exercise those “Biased WILL” as the wills being Free themselves. The word “FREEWILL” is an OXYMORON no will is free…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2012,05:08)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 09 2012,07:50)To All………….Saying Jesus is the root from which Jesse and David came is a total LIE and corruption of scriptures.  Jesus is  (the Root), “OF” or (FROM)  Jesse and King David, He is also the Offspring of them both. Any half intelligent person can understand th…[Read more]

To All………….Saying Jesus is the root from which Jesse and David came is a total LIE and corruption of scriptures. Jesus is (the Root), “OF” or (FROM) Jesse and King David, He is also the Offspring of them both. Any half intelligent person can understand that. Trinitarians and preexistences have to twist up that understanding in order to…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 01 2012,18:09)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 27 2012,04:09)They are false teachers who preach Jesus as perexisting his berth on the earth .If true, that makes at the writers of the New Testament false. Clearly, you have to be wrong.John 17:5“And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 07 2012,14:42)I like these words posted from the thread starter.I truly believe in grace and can only give all praise to God and Christ.If any man glory let him glory in the Lord!I learned of God's sovereignty and sovereign grace first from the Spirit as a new believer but rejected that too for freewill.It was years later I…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 07 2012,20:07)Jesus is of David's bloodline and David nor Jesse are a descendant of Jesus.Kerwin……….Amen Amen, This is absolutely right brother. But all those who try desperately to Separate Jesus identity with humanity will never accept it. Jesus is the root and offspring of King David and Jesse, Just as he said he…[Read more]

Kerwin………You are right apsolutly right. The man Jesus is the one God was speaking of , he is the heir of his father king David's throne. Jesus plainly said he was the root and offspring of king David. No matter how hard these deceived separatist Try to separate Jesus' human identity with his human Father and us they Can't , without…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Sep. 27 2012,15:13)The Nicene creed sounds holy and reverent and I've said it many times and nearly knew it by heart at one point,but now I have to ask myself if it's truly scriptural or does it make a tangled web out of God,Jesus and the Bible.Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he…[Read more]

Frank4yahweh………………..Brother we fight a war with those who would seperatee us from Jesus' identity as a fellow human being brought into existence just as we are , having no advantage over us other then God the father was with him and perfected him by his holy spirit just as he can us also. These   “separatists” make Jesus into an…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2012,04:29)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 16 2012,08:58)Eze 37:5……> Thus says the Lord GOD unto these “bones” ; Behold, “I” will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall Live: (6) And “I” will lay “sinews” upon you, and will bring up “flesh” upon you, and cover you with “skin” and put “breath” in you, and you…[Read more]

Mike……..I am still waiting for your honest response to the scriptures I quoted in Ezk 37:5-6 brother. I stand on the fact, that what God said he will do he will do, and even more God said that this was the   whole house of Israel Mike. Peace and love to you and your Mike………………………………..gene

Frank4Wahweh………….Shalom  to you and your also Brother. You are fighting the good fight brother and more and more are coming to see the truth as a result of your efforts in the faith of our Lord Yahshua. Remember we must always be patient with others not standing in the truth of God. It take time to undo what they have been taught for many…[Read more]

Mike……………When are we going to disuse the scriptures i gave you twice , or are you going to let Pierre continue to throw flack and distract from those scriptures for you , perhaps you and T8 can put your heads together and come up with something like Pierre that can throwout God the Father own words or change them as Pierre does to mean…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2012,22:25)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 17 2012,10:06)Terricca………Hardening  my heart against what? , there is nothing in the scripture or what I Posted that has anything to do with me hardening my heart, you call me hardening my heart when it is your false assumptions that i reject.  Is  this all you have to of…[Read more]