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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Love in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Terricca……….Go back and retread again what I wrote and this time think about it OK.Peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike…….How can i call him my BROTHER if he is “Different” than I am. What is wrong with me wanting to “Identify “with Jesus as my Brother. Mike i do not force Jesus to be what i want him to be, i simply believe what he said he was, “a son of Man” exactly like i am. Mike it is exactly your Biases causing you to move Jesus away form you having…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Love in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
To all………….Paul did not separate Love from the action he separated the reasons for what was causing the ACTION. It is what is behind that action that counts. True love will aways produce an action , Love is Patient , kind, long suffering, believes all things are possible with God, slow to anger, forgiving , always ready for a new…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why must christ pre-exist? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (942767 @ Feb. 15 2012,01:44)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 14 2012,18:48)I have said this a number of times and no one can refute this because I am really just quoting scripture, albeit I have abbreviated it into my own words. Yet men here grit their teeth when I say this and it can all be shown as scripture.He existed in the form of God, emptied…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike………..First of all you do not see Jesus as a pure “human” Being Now do you? You see him as a preexisting, god, demigod, angel, or whatever you have never told us exactly what he was right? And yes a Preexisting Jesus would make a lot of difference because he simply would not be identifying with us in the same way. Why can't you see…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago
Terricca……………I and others also have GAVE THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN to no avail to you and them. To say no one else does is a Direct LIE, which you seem to be very good at here. The Truth is not what you seek from scripture or you would have acknowleded the ones i posted . And please don't talk about me giving them different…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike………Tell us how, seeing Jesus as a pure human being who God brought forth at the proper time by his berth on the earth, would change you belief in him. Would it not make more sense for God to do it that way , take a Man from Human Stock and Perfect him and raise him to what God had in mind for all mankind, and set him as a example and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago
ED J………Amen brother they just can't allow Jesus to be a Purely Human Being and see how God perfected him as a pure human being, they must move Jesus away from our Human Idenity with him and place him in a catorgry higher then that of man. They fail to realize Man is GOD'S CROWN JEWEL of CREATION, and that nothing is his equal in all of God…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2012,07:05)To All,Col.1:16 and Col.1:17 refers to “The Father”.The subject starts in Col.1:12, which is the Father.Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: When are you people going to get this?Isaiah 44:24-25 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Nov. 10 2012,19:03)I mean we just believe it as it is written. It is you who adds that this really just a memory in God's mind that he is going to.How ironic aye gene. Your comment is really about yourself if you have eyes to see.T8……> “O” really, you mean your rendition of what scriptures say , and i do have eyes to see what they…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago
Terricca………..Exact respones i would expect of you so tell me Pierre, Will Mike or T8 be the ones who will represent you to God or Christ Jesus? You can't answer those question put to you because you simply know they are the oppisit of what both Mike and T8 and You are saying. so you respond in you mormal way of trying to dicredit a person,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Kerwin……….You have it right brother, Jesus was simply responding to the question they ask when they ask who was Jesus he simply responded “I AM” and it had no other signifence to it other then he identifying himself. Some think where it say the soldiers fellback that meant it had some “spritual” signifence to it , but the soldier thought his…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 08 2012,02:50)gQuote To all…….Why do people want to make Jesus into a different kind of being in the first place.it is good for all who believe in the son of God to know who he realy his ,according to scriptures NOT ACCORDING TO WHAT WE THINK IT SHOULD BETerricca………Do you truly believe “scrptures” then believe…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago
To all…….Why do people want to make Jesus into a different kind of being in the first place. Why is it so important to see Jesus differently then we other humans are? Why can't those who see Jesus as different understand how that effects and impact Both GOd's work and Jesus' work in the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Kerwin……..Good point , Jesus was indeed a person through whom the nations were blessed. He was a decedant of Abraham also. Paul brings that out that Jesus was the seed being identified, because it says seed, a singular expression not seeds a plural expression, Jessu was indeed that “Seed”. Kerwin they just can't except the fact that Jessu w…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Terricca………..”O” really, did God cause Sarha to have Issac “the son of Promise” after she was 100 years old, was that not a mirical, Did God not call Cyrus the king and name him 200 years befor he was born and even tell what he would do, did God not cause John the Baptists parents to recieve a miricial berth at their old non child bearing…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 05 2012,12:19)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 04 2012,23:28)Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,08:22)Quote Scripture calls Jesus a human.were is that scripture
Terricca……….Jesus himself said he was a son of man time and time again.Now ask yourself what does that mean if not a Human being and you have your answer…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Angel of the LORD in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,08:22)Quote Scripture calls Jesus a human.were is that scripture
Terricca……….Jesus himself said he was a son of man time and time again.Now ask yourself what does that mean if not a Human being and you have your answer Pierre.peace and love to you and yours……………………………geneGeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 04 2012,07:03)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 03 2012,22:00)Terricca………Can't you see i have never said we do not have Freedom to EXCERCISE our WILL, i have never denyed that , I am not talking about our Liberty to use our Will I am talking about the WILLS themselves . Why can't you people understand that?peace and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 13 years, 9 months ago
Simplyforgiven………Thanks they just can't get it in there heads i was never talking about our Freedom or liberty we have to Excercise our Wills, that a given we all know that , I was talking of how the Will works in us the will “itself” . The word a “FREEWILL” as applying to the Will itself is a OXYMORON , no Will is “FREE” in itself or it…[Read more]
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