To All…….the stumbling block is the word (WAS) that is  used there,  “and the earth was”. That word “was”, in the original Hebrew should be ,  (became) or (came to be). Exactly as eplained , it should read, the earth “became ” to-hu and bo-hu,  coruppted and void.  

Where does it say God created everything “perfect” at. Because God said it wa…[Read more]

LU……No,  the one who dress and pruns is the “vine dresser “,  the vine,  is the whole thing which includes the branches,  the dresser is God, Who owns the vine and it’s branches, and causes it to grow and produce fruit.

Jesus is the Branch which was taken from the rootstock of Jesse and King David,  Just as he said he was.  “I am the “root”…[Read more]

LU……There exists, no vine NOR HUMAN, that did not come from another (branch) exactly like it,  and there exist no branch , that did not come from another vine exactly like it also, they “ALL”, come from one planting,  of “ONE”,  God.  JESUS is a human being , a HUMAN,  FROM HUMANITY,  FROM “ONE”,  GOD, as we “ALL” are. 

Matt 23:9…..…[Read more]

LU……Paul was saying that to the brethren in Eph 6v23.  In your last post. And Paul represent both, but not as the same person.   As you do. I do believe you know what the word (and) means right, it means two different persons, like Joe and Mike . The are not the same .

Neither is the Man Jesus and God the Father , they may be doing the sa…[Read more]

LU……Please show us,  a scripture that say that Jesus was more then a “man”.  I have yet to see it written anywhere in scriptures.  But I do see where he said , he said if I believe , “we could do greater works then he did” .   How does that fit in with your , “greater the a man”, theology?

Here is just another of many scriptures that prov…[Read more]

LU……Do you “truly”believe Jesus ? ,  then listen to him,  “hear “O”  ISREAL, the LORD (YEHEOVAH ) “OUR” God , is “ONE”  LORD”  , Jesus said that , and the word “OUR” is all inclusive and always includes the person speaking .

Do you “truly ” Believe Jesus ? , then listen to him, “I am going to my Father and your Father, my God, and your Go…[Read more]

Proclaimer……..good videos, I also believe things must change in our nation, TO much corruption going on in our government,  we have the worst,  top leadership,  in our nation today,  then I ever saw here.  OUR God said, ‘” for the leaders of this people  have caused them err, and they that are led of them, are destoryed ” ,  Isiah 9:16  …[Read more]

Carmel……What Frank Nelti said He learned from Herbet Armstrong, .i.e, “wwcog”,  40 years ago.  I believe also that Genesis 1v1&2 is saying and meaning that, “in the beginning” (of the whole universe, including the heavens and the earth),  God the Father created it,  And that verse 2, is saying  that the earth  became or (came to be),  to-hu…[Read more]

Mike…….What you are quoting is talking about the creation of man, not the whole creation itself. Your grabbing straws , scriptures plainly show man was not the first thing God created, Scripture say’s “In the (beginning) God created the (heaven) and the earth.  you must establish what “beginning” it is speaking of, was it the beginning of t…[Read more]

..Mike……We’re not talking about other places in scriptures, we are talking about the language used in Gen 1v1&2,  non of that even has the words,  “he created THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH on the (FIRST DAY) in it”, that is something you have added to that text.  Even the text you quoted in Exodus dosen’t say he created the “heavens” and earth in…[Read more]

CARMEL……He who Pharoah sent (Joseph ),  was above all,  in the land of Egypt, too, he  acted as the (agent)  of the (principle ) Pharoah.  He never was the Pharoah himself. The same thing applies to Jesus our brother in the Anointed of God the Father.

We to are called to be (agents) of the, (MOST HIGH) , exactly like our brother Jesus , the…[Read more]

LU……Whose  “word” came to be the flesh man Jesus?   GOD THE FATHER’S (prophetic),  WORD,   Came into being, it was the “Flesh Man”, named Jesus Christ.   This scripture is not susjesting that Jesus was somekind of (preexisting) word of God, before he ever came into his existence,  as you people suppose.   

God the Father did create Every…[Read more]

To all……Seeing Jesus as an (agent) of God,  is quite different then seeing him as God.  A (agent) is a representative or servant  of someone, or thing.  They are never the (principle) themselves. Therein lies the problem we deal with here.

Trinitarians make Jesus out to be one of the (principles),  instead of an  (agent)  repre…[Read more]

Adam……Your getting the word “El” (most high in power) as a name of a person, that’s the error, the person called “the most high or “EL”, IS NAMED “YEHEOVAH”  El is a descriptor of who YEHEOVAH  is. The word is not a different perso`n.  “EL”, SHADAH IS “YAHOVAH ” OUR GOD.

That is the way I see it Adam.

Peace and love to you and yours Adam. ..…[Read more]

To All……Being an agent of someone is not being that person yourself ,  that’s the Error of the “MANY” , that the trinitarians teach.  It’s one thing to say an “agent” is a direct representative the “principle”,  but quite another to say the agent “IS” the priniciple.

Remember what Jesus said, “many would come in my name,  “SAYING”, “I am” , a…[Read more]

To all…….Jesus never acted in the capacity of a Creator God at all never did he ever mention a prexisting life he had,  he only mentioned a preordained  Glory,  and other aspects of his life, which related to the prophecies regarding him,   that is all I have ever got from our text.

What I believe is This,  Jesus was a human active  Servan…[Read more]

Adam……If you were rational then you would understand what “fallen Christanity” is saying is what is wrong , not what the “original” meaning of the text says.  No where does Jesus say there are other God, nor does he ever call himself a God of a kind, in fact he tells he is not God or a God of anykind .  He calls God the Father this “THE “O…[Read more]

Adam……I disagree with you on the idea that the New Testement was just for the Hebrews, alone. The apostle Paul who wrote most of the books, was an apostle to the Gentiles.  While the first to receive were the Jew’s only a 1/13 part of the nation of Israel , and they rejected it, as you seem to be now doing,  then came the Gentiles , after t…[Read more]

Berean……You mean , you don’t care about Science unless it meets your views, right?

IN Genesis 1v2,  go and please check out the word (was) and you will find it can be  translated from the Hebrew word , meaning ….Became,  as in, came to be,   the words  (was) with (void) it could  mean……it became or came to be,  (bo’-hoo) meaning empty,…[Read more]

Mike…….scripture seem to indicate the earth became void.

GEN 1v2…..And the earth (was) without (form),  and (void) ; and darkness was on the face of the deap.

Hebrew words for (was)  and (form) and (void)

(Was)…. a primitive root, to exist, that is (be “OR”  “BECOME”, as in CAME TO PASS .

(Form)….a unused root  meaning to (lie waste;…[Read more]