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    Mike ……….Yes God who give us the understanding who Jesus “IS” also gives us the right to be called the Childern of God , and that is the what Vers 13 is referencing . These are childern that are born not of  natural desent nor of human decision nor of a husbands “WILL”,  but of or by “GOD.” All of this is done BY GOD the Father and all w…[Read more]

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    Mike……….I for one say God and His word and His light are all tied together as one and the same being. So Yes as long as you keep them all part or and aspect as Kerwin said, of the one GOD. Now what is you point brother?……………………………………..gene

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    Mike……..Here is the Scripture i was referring to.Act 20: 28…..> Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the HOLY GHOST has made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he (?) has purchased with his own blood.Was this referencing God or Jesus or both? It seems to imply GOD Right?I know most scriptures…[Read more]

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    Mike…….Lets get to the finish line here what are you driving at ?peace and love to you and yours Mike……………………………………………..gene

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    Carmel………. Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God in this way, He is the only begotten from among Mankind raised to eternal life, not the only begotten Son of God, because there are many begotten of God that are called Son of God. I see you take liberty to add to scriptures like all Trinitarians and Preexistence do. Forcing text to meet your…[Read more]

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    Mike you brought up a good point, who did offer up Jesus . Here is my take on this, I believe it was God the Father who offered Jesus as His sacrifice for the sins of man. Jesus through the eternal Spirit of God which was God “in” him, gave himself to God, and by doing that he became the lamb of God. God is Soverign and therefore takes…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2012,14:28)They have gone a horing with other gods, made with manshands, and corrupted the doctrine;and they say;what have we done wrong?Wakeup……..This took place a long , long , long time ago when men like you trinitarians and Preexistence  made Jesus a GOD and Idol ,a object of Worship . Those false teachers that…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ Dec. 30 2012,07:32)Quote Jesus was indeed (Uniquely Begotten) Just like Adam was a uniquely begotten So of GOD also. Gene,READ Genesis 5:1 This is the book of the generation of Adam. In the day that God created man, he made him to the likeness of GodWHERE DOES IT SAY THAT ADAM WAS UNIQUELY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER???Peace and love…[Read more]

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    Mike……….Spirit is  (intellect) which en-lightens the mind, and “IT” (the Spirit) which “en-lightens” is the light of man spoken of by John , and  is “expressed in “words”. Just that simple nothing complicated about it. Mike remember when Jesus said this, Mat 6:23…> But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness, t…[Read more]

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    Caemel………..God make himelf known to you by Answering you prayors, If ypu don;t have a true personal relationship with God the Father then you simply do not know him. Paul said………> tell me this ,He (God) that works mircales among you, does He do it by works of Law or by Hearing of You “FAITH” ? God has eternal life and this Life is…[Read more]

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    Mike……….Yes John is talking about GOD the Father, he is referencing both GOD's Word and God's SPIRIT, (intellect) 0r (light) All these things are referencing GOD ONLY. But he is not just singeling out the Word if that is what you are meaning Mike.peace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 29 2012,14:37) gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.unique means one of a kindJesus was indeed (Uniquely Begotten) Just like Adam was a uniquely begotten So of GOD also. He…[Read more]

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    Quote (carmel @ Dec. 29 2012,17:18)Quote But Jesus Said THOU ARE THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD Gene,READ AND ANSWER!!!The full sentence is: Now this is eternal life: That they may know thee,WHO IS THE ETERNAL LIFE???HOW THEN THE FATHER WOULD BE KNOWN???THROUGH WHAT PROCESS THE FATHER WOULD BE KNOWN???AS:the only true God, and Jesus Christ,PURPOSELY SENT FOR…[Read more]

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    Mike…….What you are really trying to do is to disconnect the Word from GOD as not being united as one and the same, Lets be honest here Mike. It will not work becasue a Word is never a PERSON it is an “INTELLEGENT UTTERANCE” of or from A PERSON , God and His word are one and the same thing Mike. peace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 29 2012,12:24)To all,I am filling ill.  Since my immune system is compromised any illness can be serious.  Hopefully it turns out to be nothing. I plan on posting in the future, the Lord willing.Kerwin……..Brother I have ask our Lord to help you brother. peace and love to you and Yours Brother………………………gene

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    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 28 2012,11:28)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 28 2012,02:30)Quote (jammin @ Dec. 27 2012,11:21)kerwin,the son is just like his father. the father is God by nature. the son is also God by nature just like his father. he is the ONLY son of God. do you know how to read? thomas said to JESUS my LORD AND MY GOD. do you understand…[Read more]

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    To all………..Joh 4:24….> GOD is a “SPIRIT” A spirit is not a person “IT” is the Intellect that resides (IN) a Person, a Living Soul. “IT” animated that Person or Soul. There are seven destinct Spirits that make up the one GOD or Elohim. These seven Spirits reside in yehweh and go out before him into all creation. They make up what scripture…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 28 2012,12:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 28 2012,11:58)Quote (jammin @ Dec. 27 2012,18:35)JESUS should correct thomas if he was wrong.Perhaps Jesus understood that Thomas meant those words as vocatives, and that's why he didn't correct Thomas.  :)I don't really want to be in this discussion you're having with Kerwin.  I just w…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 28 2012,10:45)It is noted that Kerwin believes the Word was the “utterance of God”, that not only happened to be with God in the beginning, but also was the very God it was with.  It is further noted that Kerwin does not believe “the light” was “the utterance”, but that it was the “faithfulness” or “righteousness” of God…[Read more]

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    Quote (jammin @ Dec. 27 2012,11:21)kerwin,the son is just like his father. the father is God by nature. the son is also God by nature just like his father. he is the ONLY son of God. do you know how to read? thomas said to JESUS my LORD AND MY GOD. do you understand that?now answer my question.who is the LORD AND GOD of thomas according to john…[Read more]

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