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    Danny…….Right on,  “to us and Jesus”,  there is,  no “true” God but “ONE”, his name is Yahovah , All the rest may be God’s to OTHER people,  but not to us, (true believers) we believe what Jesus said,  “this is eternal life, that they may know “YOU” the “ONLY” true GOD” and Jesus Christ who you have sent.” Simple as that,  they either belie…[Read more]

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    Mike…..here is the difference between the two words “is” and “was”. 

     “is”…. is a “present tense” word,  It exists that way now,  at the time it was spoken about. 

    ‘was”.. is a “past tence” word,   It came be,  that way from a past,  Before it was being spoken about. 

    Do we at least agree on that, if not there is no way we could ever…[Read more]

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    Berean……Jesus is called the word of God because thats an “ATRUBITE”  to Jesus, he is called that not because he is that,  but because he “quotes” God the Fathers words to us.  I JUST showed you what Jesus “HIMSELF” said about it, you say you believe Jesus right? , well then believe him, If the words he was telling us were “NOT”  his word…[Read more]

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    Adam…….The original prictuoral inscription was a Head of a bull OX, with a Shepards staf leaning into it.    Which God was the “power” they leaned on for theire support.  THE word God is not a person it the power you lean on for your strength and existence.  Therefore we are commanded, by God , “You shall love the LORD (YOHOVAH),  YOUR GOD , w…[Read more]

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    I agree with Proclaimer and Son of God,  they,  the “denominations” have some truths in proberly all of them,   but also twist other scriptures and apply  their own false teachings to them.  I have alway listen to what they said, then went and studied the scriptures and see if what they said was accurate according to the sume of what the SCRIP…[Read more]

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    Berean, i quoted exactly what Jesus himself said , question is do you really “believe”  him ?  Jesus is called the word of God , because he “quotes” God the Fathers words to us,  not because he really “IS”  God the Fathers words “HIMSELF”, But, tells us the words of God the father,  get it? , why can’t you simply understand that?  Is it becaus…[Read more]

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    Mike…..It’s both, the word came to be , at that (time), when? , when  God “SAID”,(intellegent utterance),  “let there “be” , thats our only proof when the word came into being (at),   that time , but it dosen’t mean the word didn’t exist before that time,  but at that picticular time , it was there , why because God who skoke it was ther…[Read more]

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    Mike your answer is easey debuncked,  God the Father himself said he looked for other God’s and found none, and that he himself was the “ONLY”  God that existed.  Jesus said THOU ARE THE  “ONLY” TRUE God.    

    WHATS INTERESTING IS God the Father said he could find no other God’s , but you can find them,  hundreds or thousands .  Satan would sur…[Read more]

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    Adam…….Remember Jesus spoke in parables to them, so they could not understand what he was really saying,

    When Jesus said, “he called them  God’s unto whom,  the word of God came”, you need to understand that,  as him meanning that,  in a possessive sence, they were God’s people , to whom the word of God came.  get it brother? , Jesus was n…[Read more]

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    Mike…….simple answer, because the word of God “was and is” always God, Just as your words was and alway is you.  God’s words is how he expresses himself, just as your words do you. 

    The word simply means (intellegent utterance)  and it “was,” in the beginning (existing) with God and was God, in the beginning. JUST AS YOUR WORDS (int…[Read more]

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    Adam……, I believe the word God upper or god lower case , simple describe a personel relationship and can only be used to describe a personal relationship with someone or thing.  Anything can be or become a God , if it fits what the word,  God,  means.  I believe scriptures describe it as a (uni-plural) word. Because it can be applied to onl…[Read more]

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    Mike……here is anotger honest answer for you,

    JOHN 1V1……“in the beginning (was) the word  (intellegent utterance), and the word,  (intellegent uterance ) was with God, and the word (intellegent utterance)  was God. 

    Point one ……..God and his word are one and the same person, just as you and your words are.

    Point two…….. God and…[Read more]

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    Adam…….So what is your complete conclusions of the matter brother?

    Peace and love to you and yours Adam………..gene

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    Berean…….It also say’s this, “whosoever is under the WORKS OF LAW,  is under a curse”?  Question is do you believe it?  , i believe the Sabbath was made for me  and “NOT ME FOR THE SABBATH”, i am also like Jesus, “lord of the sabbath”, i see the benifits of a sabbath rest,  but it’s up to me on how i keep it.  I am not under the works of law…[Read more]

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    Mike…….This song fits you brother, “don’t let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy”  ,look , Gen 1v1 , plainly says, In the beginning God, created the heavens and the earth . And the earth “was” or came to be  (the argument is not about what it came to be, but WHEN IT DID) 

    Was it before or after God’s six day creation period ?  Right…[Read more]

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    Mike……First of all your “Fred” story is full of false asumptions,  because if Fred created a “car” then it was not “void” , it was a car   that means it had design and was not void at all,  now if the car got into a wreck then it “BECAME” or  (WAS ) “USELESS”,  and after it was reparied it was or became a usable car again.   The word (was) o…[Read more]

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    DANNY ……good point, I also believe God can use anyone  in his saving process. BUT HE IS STILL THE ONLY “TRUE” SAVIOUR.  None of those saviours could have saved anyone without GOD the Father being with them.

    Peace and love to you and yours Danny. ………….gene

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    Mike…….thanks.,  but I have responded to it,  the answer is this,  do you understand  Gen 1v2 shows that the earth “came to be” , (to-hu and bo-hu ), the word  (was),  even in English! does not imply , it didn’t   (exist ),  before it was, or “came to be”,  the way it is being described at the time of that description.

    Can you at least admit…[Read more]

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    LU……do you “really”,  believe Jesus and what he said.?  Then believe this   “call no man your Father on earth , for “ONE” , IS YOUR “Father ”  who is in heaven”.  So I disagree with you saying Jesus is the “only son of God” . The real question here is do you “truly” believe Jesus” , or the false teachings  of the Catholic Church .  The only…[Read more]

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    Bearean…….Jesus said, ” the Sabbath was made for man, “NOT”,  man for the Sabbath. 

    Jesus said,  the son of man is “ALSO” , like we are,  Lord of the Sabbath “, why because the Sabbath was made for mankind, and Jesus was also a son of mankind, exactly as we are.

    Jesus also said, “the father works on the Sabbath,  and so do I”.  Here Jesus…[Read more]

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