Adam……, I believe the word God upper or god lower case , simple describe a personel relationship and can only be used to describe a personal relationship with someone or thing.  Anything can be or become a God , if it fits what the word,  God,  means.  I believe scriptures describe it as a (uni-plural) word. Because it can be applied to onl…[Read more]

Mike……here is anotger honest answer for you,

JOHN 1V1……“in the beginning (was) the word  (intellegent utterance), and the word,  (intellegent uterance ) was with God, and the word (intellegent utterance)  was God. 

Point one ……..God and his word are one and the same person, just as you and your words are.

Point two…….. God and…[Read more]

Adam…….So what is your complete conclusions of the matter brother?

Peace and love to you and yours Adam………..gene

Berean…….It also say’s this, “whosoever is under the WORKS OF LAW,  is under a curse”?  Question is do you believe it?  , i believe the Sabbath was made for me  and “NOT ME FOR THE SABBATH”, i am also like Jesus, “lord of the sabbath”, i see the benifits of a sabbath rest,  but it’s up to me on how i keep it.  I am not under the works of law…[Read more]

Mike…….This song fits you brother, “don’t let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy”  ,look , Gen 1v1 , plainly says, In the beginning God, created the heavens and the earth . And the earth “was” or came to be  (the argument is not about what it came to be, but WHEN IT DID) 

Was it before or after God’s six day creation period ?  Right…[Read more]

Mike……First of all your “Fred” story is full of false asumptions,  because if Fred created a “car” then it was not “void” , it was a car   that means it had design and was not void at all,  now if the car got into a wreck then it “BECAME” or  (WAS ) “USELESS”,  and after it was reparied it was or became a usable car again.   The word (was) o…[Read more]

DANNY ……good point, I also believe God can use anyone  in his saving process. BUT HE IS STILL THE ONLY “TRUE” SAVIOUR.  None of those saviours could have saved anyone without GOD the Father being with them.

Peace and love to you and yours Danny. ………….gene

Mike…….thanks.,  but I have responded to it,  the answer is this,  do you understand  Gen 1v2 shows that the earth “came to be” , (to-hu and bo-hu ), the word  (was),  even in English! does not imply , it didn’t   (exist ),  before it was, or “came to be”,  the way it is being described at the time of that description.

Can you at least admit…[Read more]

LU……do you “really”,  believe Jesus and what he said.?  Then believe this   “call no man your Father on earth , for “ONE” , IS YOUR “Father ”  who is in heaven”.  So I disagree with you saying Jesus is the “only son of God” . The real question here is do you “truly” believe Jesus” , or the false teachings  of the Catholic Church .  The only…[Read more]

Bearean…….Jesus said, ” the Sabbath was made for man, “NOT”,  man for the Sabbath. 

Jesus said,  the son of man is “ALSO” , like we are,  Lord of the Sabbath “, why because the Sabbath was made for mankind, and Jesus was also a son of mankind, exactly as we are.

Jesus also said, “the father works on the Sabbath,  and so do I”.  Here Jesus…[Read more]

Mike…..Are we clear on the English word (WAS) yet?   As meaning coming to (be) or exist a certain way, but not nessarely meaning that it “always”,  was that way?  Can you allow your mind to even consider that possibility IN Genesis 1v2 ?

I am sorry for some of my post being a little scrambled at times, my tab adds letters some times  even word…[Read more]

Mike even the word (was) in  English  does not mean it “always” existed that way.  Example,

The car “was” red doesn’t mean it “now”  is red.  But at one time it became or came to be red.

The apple was red, or ripe, of dosen’t mean it now is , it just mean at a time it became those things.

Let’s,  let the English definition settle this ok.…[Read more]

BEREAN……No,  in the begining was step one and in that step God created the heavens and the earth,  that had nothing to do with a single day or day one,   As you falsely assume. Heaven and earth was already in existence when the Spirit of God moved upon the waters, so it could have not been created later right? Common sense 101.

Peace and lov…[Read more]

Mike…… but yes it would make sense to say the hand of God became against Isreal,  when you consider it was not alway against Israel right,  this show a process had taken place over time.  We all know God was not “always”   against Israel.  Right?   So this could also apply to this earth as “becoming” or coming to be, (to-hu and bo-hu ) right? …[Read more]

Mike……I would like you to focus on a single word for a change,  the word used in Gen 1v2,  “And the earth (was)   this word came from the Heb word ”  (haw-yaw) . Strong H1961

Haw-yaw …….A primitive root meaning,  to exist, that is, , (be “OR” become, or came to pass) to be to-hu and bo-hu (meaning empty) ; a vacuity, that is (superf…[Read more]

Berean…….If you believe Jesus is God, you are a novice,  and haven’t began to understand the truth yet.  Jesus is indeed the word of God, that came into being when he was born on this earth exactly as we are  , yes he was “the prophesied ” word “FULFILLED”, , but he himself is not God the Father’s word (himself), just as he said he was…[Read more]

Proclaimer…….what makes you think being a partaker of the Devine nature,   makes you not a human being?  All who have the Spirit of the living God have the Devine nature in them.  Any human being who has been “ANOINTED” with the Spirit of the living God , has it.

How does that change, the idea of,  Jesus having partaking the “Devine natu…[Read more]

LU……..AZ I have said , I was a grape farmer for many years, I think I know how a vine work’s more then most .  THE VINE in the parable is Jesus, who came from the “root ” of Jesse and was an “offspring” of the family of King David,  just as he  said he was.   Rev 22: 16. 

Isa 1v1……” and there shall come forth a rod our of the stem of Jes…[Read more]

Mike…..I also agree with LU,  IF David meant god’s, the Greek word “theos”  would have been used there.

Mike, the question is do you “truly”, believe what Jesus said, “this is eternal life, that they might know “YOU” , the “ONLY” “TRUE” God”…….Why would Jesus use the word “only” , if there were other “true” God’s,  common sense questi…[Read more]

Mike,   “Hugh” problem, you still have , is your,  not understanding the word God , big or little, comes from the same word,  and is never describes the person, it describes  is “YOUR”,  relationship with any object that exists, that you “worship” and lean on for your power and strength, that’s  “YOUE” ”TRUE”, and can be anything or anyone living…[Read more]