Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2013,13:14)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 03 2013,09:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2013,11:35)Do you believe it was GOD who was in Jesus?  Or do you believe, like Kerwin and 2B, that it was the “Holy Spirit Son of God” who was in Jesus?Which one, please?2besee and Kerwin are both right , You brother Mike are wrong IMO>…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2013,11:35)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 02 2013,14:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2013,06:47)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 02 2013,08:55)Who spoke Mike through Jesus and the Prophets?,   God Spoke (words) His words Mike through Jesus and the Prophets. Was it God who spoke through Jesus, Gene?  Or was it the “Holy Spirit S…[Read more]

Mike……..Yes as 2besee said I believe Jesus will return , Just as He said he would to this earth . I do not believe He has already returned in the form of the Holy Spirit , I believe He did Just what He said He would Do, Send the Sprit of Truth which Comforts us into our Hearts crying Abba Father. We are connected with Jesus by that same Sprit…[Read more]

Sorry to all i double posted……..gene

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2013,20:22)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 01 2013,09:50)Mike…….OK let's look at it this way , what is a root , is it not that which came from a “SEED”………..It depends on the context, Gene.For example, in 1 Timothy 6:10, when Paul tells us that “money is the root of all kinds of evil”, doesn't it mean that all…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2013,06:47)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 02 2013,08:55)Who spoke Mike through Jesus and the Prophets?,   God Spoke (words) His words Mike through Jesus and the Prophets. Was it God who spoke through Jesus, Gene?  Or was it the “Holy Spirit Son of God” who spoke through the flesh Son of God, like Kerwin and 2B are c…[Read more]

Mike………. No both are not true it was the holy Spirit Jesus sent not himself. When he comes ever one in this world will know it Just as he said.  Now In times past God Spoke (words) to us “through' the Prophets,(by the Holy Spirit,  has in these last days Spoken (words) to us “through” a son. Who spoke Mike through Jesus and the P…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Mar. 02 2013,08:08)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 02 2013,04:31)2besee………..I have just finished reading THE SHEPHERD OF HERMAS ,I believe it may well have been an original teaching . It is very well presented and we can drive much information from it, though I didn't  completely retain all of it and need to study it further.   P…[Read more]

Mike…….ok let's look at it this way , what is a root , is it not that which came from a “SEED” so from the seed of ABRAHAM came Jesse and DAVID and JESUS all these are are roots which came from the Seed of Abraham , now if you can understand that , you can realize that the root spoken of there is a genealogical order of events. So from…[Read more]

2besee………..I have just finished reading THE SHEPHERD OF HERMAS ,I believe it may well have been an original teaching . It is very well presented and we can drive much information from it, though I didn't completely retain all of it and need to study it further. Peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 01 2013,11:17)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 28 2013,17:24)But Only mesengers which are human Beings.Messengers can be human beings or spirit beings, Gene.  In fact, scripture speaks of things like mountains and rocks being able to witness and testify.But the only messengers that English-speaking people call “angels” are the…[Read more]

Mike………the word Father can be used in a relative sense to a topic, Like the fathers of our nation, our the term our forefathers, i know that, But as far as a True Father goes we have only two how can clam that one is our HEAVENLY FATHER, (the Father of all Sprits) and the Other is our Earthly Father, who Fathered our Flesh. I know of no…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2013,10:03)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 27 2013,05:39)If you are going to call Jesus an Angel,  Produce the Scriptures to Prove it, and why are you not a JW that is what they also believe. David would be glad to here that .Jesus and John are called angelsMalachi 3:11 “See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2013,12:29)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 27 2013,04:36)Mow please go back and answer all the Yes or No questions on page 170 i listed, seems T8 can't ,maybe you can.Did it ever occur to you that T8 may not have read that page.This is an apt demonstration that you are unable to see more than your own view.This is proof.T8…..Then…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2013,10:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2013,12:29)1.  Doesn't work at all, because the man never HAD the inheritance before he was conceived.2.  Works ONLY IF the son actually HAD possession of that mansion BEFORE the father legally GIVES it to him.3.  Works perfectly, IF you actually HAD that room last week.Gene. Are you lo…[Read more]

Mike ………….All man kind had an inheritance with God before any man was ever created it was through God's foreknowledge of us all. It was all in the plan and will of God from the very beginning. Surely you do understand that Mike.Peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2013,09:21)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 26 2013,09:39)Scripture also says Jesus has Angels he at his disposal…………Jesus also had many human disciples at his disposal.  Does that mean he was not a human when he was on earth?Michael, as the archangel, also has many angels at his disposal.  Does that mean Michael i…[Read more]

Mike………Hay by now i believe you people can make anything say anything in scriptures and mean anything you want them to never mind if it is true or not. Jesus is not (THE) Ecerlasting FATHER of anyone one< just like He is not a GOD of anyone. This Iniquity is procicated by all Preexitence and Trinitarians , But we will see what Jesus has to…[Read more]

T8………> Why is it you can't produce one “SPECIFIC” Scripture attesting to the Preexistence of Jesus, before his berth on this earth, if you or anyone else could there would not be any contention of what those scriptures meant . Why do you have to add thought to them as if they say what in fact the don't   specifically say why do you think…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2013,13:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,01:18)Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 23 2013,23:50)Instead John 17:5 is Jesus asking for his glory that he had with Jehovah before the World began.That's right, Kerwin.  And if you ask for something you ALREADY HAD, then you are OBVIOUSLY asking for the RETURN of that something.This…[Read more]