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    Quote (2besee @ Mar. 11 2013,10:48)LU, I would say that “God's Wings” 'represent' the Son/Holy Spirit.“He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.  I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust.  Surely he will save you from the fowler's snare and from the deadly p…[Read more]

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    2besee……….Good Post brother. Jesus was indeed born of God through Mary as a Pure human being , and received the Nature of God in him and did not as a result of that nature sin. Jesus was a Uniquely “begotten” son of God a second Adam. He never preexisted his berth on this earth, except in the plan and will of God and was Prophesied to come…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,15:07)Job 29:16 King James Version I was a father to the poor………….Gene, was Job LITERALLY a father to these poor people he mentioned?  YES or NO?Was he saying he was the Father God?  YES or NO?Ed, was Job LITERALLY a father to these poor people he mentioned?  YES or NO?Was he saying he was the Father Go…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,15:55)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 07 2013,20:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2013,08:31)COULD the statement, “Give to me now that thing I HAD with you before” be referring to something the speaker ACTUALLY HAD with the other person before?  YES or NO?  (Answer HONESTLY, Kerwin)Mike,The context of Scripture does not allow f…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,19:05)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 09 2013,21:03)Mike……..I just never thought about it that way before , but it makes perfect sense to me It makes perfect sense that both Jesus Christ AND the Holy Spirit are two different “sons of God”?Are you sure?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 09 2013,21:03)Did you not read the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2013,09:03)Gene, it's clear to me that you've NEVER in your life believed that the Holy Spirit was God's Son.  Neither you, nor Kerwin, have ever mentioned such a thing in the time I've been on HN.  I believe you guys are only jumping on this crazy train now because you hope 2B will be able to use this unscriptural c…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2013,09:23)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 08 2013,10:26)Mike……….Go back to page 183 and answer ALL the Yes or No   questions pleaseThere are no questions addressed to ME on that page, Gene.  If you would like to ask ME those same questions, then post them ONE AT A TIME in a post that IS addressed to ME.  (And re…[Read more]

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    Mike……I totally understand Metaphoric usage in scriptures, but when you try to make them Literal is where the trouble comes. If you say Jesus is “CALLED”, the Mighty God, or Everlasting Father , with the understanding that the Spirit of the Living God is “IN” Him and that those names apply in a metaphoric sense I understand that but many…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2013,13:17)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 28 2013,17:38)Mike………the word Father can be used in a relative sense to a topic, Like the fathers of our nation, our the term our forefathers, i know that……….Very good, Gene.Then there is no logical or scriptural reason that Jesus can't “relatively” be called…[Read more]

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    Mike……….Go back to page 183 and answer ALL the Yes or No   questions please . And saying You or me did not know by removing you fathers DNA from you , and supplied it with Another would have made  you look different,  is simply not true not only do i know that but so does almost everyone who has any knowledge of DNA know that.  The DNA in…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 5 months ago

    Mike……….”Could”, it be an Inheritance afforded Jesus before he ever was born. Yes or no Please.peace and loveto you and yours…………………………………………………gene

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    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 06 2013,20:16)if the bible is silent, you must be silent.do not conclude that Christ was the first creation created by God bec paul did not say that.he said firstborn of all creation and that is not literally created. the context proves that it refers to the supremacy of Christ. pls read commentaries also. scholars know more…[Read more]

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    Mike……….speaking physically tell us if I were to remove you DNA you received from your father from you, and supplied another's DNA would you look the same as you now look , YES or NOWould you still be the son of your present father,   YES OR NOIt works the same with the spirits.  Do you understand that if you have the spirit of the devil , y…[Read more]

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    Abe…………AMEN, Brother, it is the spirit of God that makes us his children . For if a person has not the spirit of God they simply are non of his, just as it says.Peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

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    Mike …….here is a question for you, Do you believe GOD AND HIS WORD ARE ONE AND THE SAME.YES OR NO, PLEASEDo you believe GOD'S SPIRIT is PART OF GOD ? YES OR NO, PLEASEPeace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

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    Lighten up……….I agree with you regarding Mikes behavior at times. Peace and love to you and yours…………………..gene

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2013,13:20)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 05 2013,06:16)Your Livimg Soul consits of a body with Spirit “IN” it. Just that simple There is no such thing as “three componets to us Well, Jesus and Paul both disagree with you, Gene.  And I will ALWAYS accept their words over yours.But even in your scenario, “Mike” consists…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2013,12:31)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 04 2013,09:00)MIKE…….GOD AND HIS SPIRIT ARE ONE, JUSTY AS YOU AND YOURS SPIRIT ARE ONE AND THE SAME THING.My spirit is OF me, Gene.  The being of “Mike” consists of a spirit, soul, and a body.  All of these things make up “Mike”.  You can't say “the spirit OF Mike IS Mike”, be…[Read more]

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    Mike…….So what do you call it when you say God really did not mean “Emp[hatically that therr were no other God's but him and that he Alone and by himself creat the whol earth nand everything in it. Why is it you and Pierre don't believe him or when Jesus said  thou art the only “TRUE God It seem you guys are the ones who froce scriptures to…[Read more]

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    Mike…….The root is from the Seed and Jessu is fromm the Seed of Abraham right surely you know that right> A n example a Seed profuces many root s from which the trunk comes and then the Branches. Jesus is a Branch or ofsute of King David who is a Branch from the root stock of Jesse who is a Root of of the Seed of Abraham. Man how come you cant…[Read more]

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