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    Mike……So it really wasn’t, you, that wrote and  implied that the people Jesus mentioned as being god’s,  were real,  god’s beings right? ,  YOU DIDN’T SAY THAT OR IMPLY THAT ?  Mike, not only is Jesus not a “God/Man   he is not a “Man/God” either.   If you will admit,  there is “ONLY” ONE “TRUE” GOD/god to, all, “true” (believers) , then we a…[Read more]

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    Mike……..YES I DO,  with  “ALL” MY HEART , ”ALL” MY SOUL, “ALL” MY MIND,  ALL, MY STRENGTH .  How God the Father does it, is another subject. Makes no difference to me it still is him and him “alone” that is doing it, and I give “ALL” the glory of  my salvation to him and him alone.

    Peace and love to you and yours Mike……..gene

     

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    Mike…….My understading of scriptures is “not lacking”  I knew you would quote that scripture,  but my point was and is,  that even if we bow our knee to Jesus, it’s not to the “GLORY” OF Jesus, ‘it’s “TO”,   the “GLORY OF “God the Father of “ALL” CREATION.  

    So it seems your lack of actually understanding scripture and believing what they <…[Read more]

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    To all……..WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE MISSING,   IN YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS THIS.

    Satan wanys all of us to move Jesus’ idenity  away from ourselves, in relationship with God the Father , WHY? 

    1….So we won’t develop and mature properly, so he created a “LIE”  about Jesus, so we will lose our perseption of who God the Father is, and who “the” (man)[Read more]

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    LU….As I recall scriptures says that God made me in his “IMAGE ” ALSO.  

    So exactly how does being made in the IMAGE of God, make you a GOD?

     

    Peace and love to you and yours LU…….gene

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    Lu,  You are right the The bull the Aron the high priest built of Gold, was a repersentation of God, in fact the very first pictorial language written as God, was a OX HEAD , which represented power, and leaning toward it was a sheppards staff.  These two leters symboles , is the written symbols of what the word God meant unto the Isrealites,  si…[Read more]

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    Mike,  you dance around ever where to try to dig up somthing to try to prove you right,  if we and everyone you believe are truly god’s ,  as you try to put,  then you need to bow down and worship then as such .   Do you do that, and if not then they are not “true” god’s are they,  Jesus clearly said this in prayer to God the Father ,  “[Read more]

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    Berean…….That’s right  there is “Only” one “true” God,  and one only.  Exactly as Jesus told us, “this is eternal life that,  they might know “YOU” ,  the “ONLY ” “TRUE” GOD,  and Jesus Christ who you have sent” 

    That’s it, “only one God, and one mediator,  between God and man, the “MAN” Jesus Christ”

    Those who see it anyother way are not…[Read more]

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    Mike,  by God the Father saying to us , “you shall have no other God’s besides me”, does show there can be other God’s right? ,  so it does show the existence of others God’s right? But we are told not to have “ANY”  God’s besides one,  “Yahovah”  , who said there is “NO” TRUE God besides him right.  So what is wrong here, because that seems…[Read more]

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    Mike,  have abswered it over and over,   your seems just to ignorant to see it.  This is how you work your deciet,  You find something in scriptures like a single statement that can be taken in a way that is against hundreds of other sound scriptures,  that directly countradict that,  and your own personal conclusions. Then just press that single s…[Read more]

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    Mike no one today would,  but back then they certanily did, and because that man made his tree his God, by doing what a God requires , it then was truley “HIS” God.  

    If you “truly”  believe all humans are God’s,  then you should fall down and “truly” worship us,  after all you are saying we are real  God’s, right?   Mike all the God’s of the pa…[Read more]

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    Carmel……I deffenitly believe the earth “came to be”,  tohu and bohu,  void and corupted, the key word in Gen 1:2,  is the word “was” that word means it “came to be” that, Meanning of course it wasen’t that way before, it came to be tohu and bohu.  

    The language in Gen 1: 1-2,  certanly lends itself to a prexisting earth that came to be”,   …[Read more]

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    Danny…..The trinitarian concepts are nothing more then a smoke and mirror show, full of false concepts.  JESUS IS APSOLUTY NOT our heavenly Father ,  If he were , why would he  pray , “OUR” Father who is in heaven, “THY” KINGDOM COME, “THY” will be done , on earth as it is done in heaven, give “US”, our daily bread, and  forgive “US” “OUR” tra…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer…….AMEN TO THAT!  I can’t understand why Mike who seems so intellegent,  can’t come to understand that,  even with the ISS, giving us 24/7  coverage of it.  Now that’s a mystery to me.

    Peace and love to you and yours………gene

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    LU…….Do i believe Jesus is the only Son,  yes and No,   He is the only begotten son “born again” from the dead so far, of the Son’s of God, the first  “of many to come” . AS SCRIPTURE SAYS.  All who have the spirit of God abiding in them are “begotten of God”   and at the resurection shall also have eternal life, just the same as Jesus do…[Read more]

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    Keras…….Yes indeed The beginning of the reign of Jesus and the Saint’s  will change this present Babylon systerm of world rule , for a thousand years, , Satan will be put into the bottomless pit, thats all true,  but at the end of that period  the deadle wound of Bablon will be heald and it will be rise up again and Satan will be released fr…[Read more]

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    Adam……Yes, there are two differents events,  of two different being’s returning,  one is the return of Jesus Christ which is the next thing thats going to take place on this earth,  and after a thousand years, the LORD  (YAHOVAH) our GOD himself will return, thats when the great battle of Armagedon happens and fire comes down and deviours Sat…[Read more]

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    Mike, he certanly was not sayibg they were real God’s , why because that would make him a liar, and we are told our God , does not lie.

    Isa 44:6…..Thus says the LORD the king of Isreal and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; “I am the first, and I am the last; and beside “ME” there is “NO” God.  

    Isa 44: 8…..Fear you not neither be afraid; h…[Read more]

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    Mike…..Neather contradict each other,  both are true,  God’s is not a God to himself, he is a God to those who believe in him as their God.  But the one who is “my”  God and Jesus’s God , who is called YAHOVAH OR YAWAH “IS” OUR,  GOD , WHO’S words express “ONLY”  him, in the past and in the present.  Simple as that.

    Mike ,  you haven’t answere…[Read more]

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    Keras…….Make sure your not getting the Return of Jesus, mixed up with the return of God the Father at the end of the thousand year reign of Jedus Christ and the Saint’s.

    The return of Jesus will be a Celestrial event, which cause the powers of heaven to be shaken (the powers of the heavens is the graventaional pulls between the planets, they…[Read more]

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