Mike……..So i can also say the Glory I had with the Father before the world began right?< because scripture confirms it , what is man that thou are mind full of him (that is me i am a man) that though visits him , you have made him a little lower then the angles , you have crowned him with “GLORY” and “HONOR”, and have put “ALL” things under…[Read more]

Mike…….You making the Word GOD a PERSON, it is NOT , it is a Relationship, and being a relative term it can apply to anything. Do you agree with that?peace and love………………gene

Mike……… Actually the word Baal-Zebub, is Not the word for “Ha-Satan” it's the God of the “FLIES a Chaldean God as I recall, But let say for argument sake you are right it make no difference, that GOD, of those people was “THEIR” GOD, why because it meet the requirements for a GOD, Those people Trusted and leaned on it power, so to “THEM” he…[Read more]

To all………..John 1:1 In the beginning, the word was with God and the word was God simply meaning just as written …> In the beginning , the word (intelligent utterance) was with God and the word (intelligent utterance ) was God. Meaning God and His word are one and the same thing Just as our word and us are the same thing. Now along…[Read more]

Mike………It is not “was having” it is, “I HAD” , just as Kerwin said . Jesus' Glory was a Planned Glory afforded him By God, before he ever came into existence , Just as the Glory and Honor of Man is afforded Him by the predetermine council of our GOD, before the very foundations of the earth . Who he “FOREKNEW” them He also “PREDESTINED” to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2013,12:06)But knowing that Satan isn't “OUR God” doesn't prohibit him from BEING a god.  Likewise, knowing that Jesus isn't “OUR God” doesn't prohibit him from being a god.He might be a God to this world but he certainly is not a God to US (true believers) because we only have “ONE” God all others are “FALSE” God's…[Read more]

Mike……….Everything concerning the word “GOD”  has to be understood before that term can be used, would you agree with that?If you would do a real study on the “ORIGINAL” Term used by the Hebrews, you would see the term can only be applied in a relative sense. Another words like this, my God, there God, the God of this or the God of that,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 16 2013,02:26)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 13 2013,09:25)Hi Mike:One more thing, you make the following statement which includes a question:Quote And what about all the other things I posted?  What about 1 Cor 8:6, for example?  Do you agree that the “all things” that came THROUGH Jesus are the same exact “all things” that came F…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2013,12:10)Kerwin,This seems to be a useless endeavor on my part, because you are going to twist the scriptures into teaching what you WANT them to teach – no matter what I do or say.But rest assured, the words “I HAD” are never said by someone who DIDN'T actually HAVE the thing before.MIke………It is not kerwin…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Dec. 19 2013,16:45)GeneMake your own bible and change heb 1:10 lolJammin……..It's not my fault you refuse to believe what Jesus himself say now is it?. I simply quoted you his own words but you refuse to believe them Just as you refuse to believe these words of His for thou are the “ONLY” TRUE GOD and this scripture also we…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 14 2013,18:09)But dont see it as litteral.The angels was showing Enoch the spritual; in symbols.Just as Jesus did with the parable of lazarus.The dead can not see anything in the grave.John 8:53   Art thou greater than        ***our father Abraham, which is dead***?         ***and the prophets are dead***: whom makest t…[Read more]

Jammin……… the son of Man (Jesus) can of his ownself do “NOTHING” , the FATHER who is “IN ” Him “HE” doth the works peace and love to you and yours…………………………gene

Terricca……….. Quite trying to change subject matter between me and wakeup, and by the way, I have answered them many times , just because you  and Mike fail to understand it, is not my fault, now is it?But i noticed you and your mentor Mike, never have said if you both agree or disagree with this Scripture now have you? 1 Cor 8:4….> we…[Read more]

Wakeup……….In the First place you should address the question, is Jesus a God of any kind if you ask me. Now sense you brought up the question “is Jesus Just another God “next” to God “? Here is my answer for you.I have a favor to ask of you, Please go an read 2 Ths 2, with this very thing in mind, that Jesus is a God, as he is “obviously”…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 18 2013,10:09)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 16 2013,18:52)Instead of what is written it does not say “give me the glory I had when I was with you before the world began” even though you seem to think it does.“Instead of what is written it does not say……….” ?   You write in a very cryptic way.  And I say “cryptic” to be p…[Read more]

Mike……if you believe it that way , then I do believe you got it right. Sorry I didn't, see where you said that, or I would have agreed with you.Peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene

To all………And that glory that was sense the foundations of the earth, has been given the Lamb of God “now”  Jesus now has all seven spirit of God, with the powers that go with them and will return and bring this whole earth into subjection to the kingdom of God. He will rule with theses spirits and Powers, of God,  until he has put all rule a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 17 2013,03:21) Jesus was telling the thief that both of them would be with the truly righteous in the Land of the Dead that day.  Kerwin……….Here is my take on what Jesus was telling the Thief on the Cross, I am telling you “THIS DAY” or “TODAY” , you “SHALL BE” with me, in Paradise. Jesus did not go to paradise that d…[Read more]

Terricca…………Humanity is another term for mankind, everyone should knows that. It means Man as a Group and is all inclusive of man Kind. peace and love……………………………..gene

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 04 2013,14:51)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 04 2013,12:27)This thread is a continuation of part of a conversation between Mike and me in the Who is the Word thread.Miike wrote in response to my earlier words:Quote Kerwin, if God chose to cause Michael the archangel to be conceived in the womb of a human woman tomorrow, could we later…[Read more]