Quote (942767 @ Jan. 13 2014,09:19)God knew that a specific point in time He would have a Son who would be born of a virgin, through whom He would reconcile the world unto Himself.  And Jesus did not begin his ministry until he was thirty years old.It is through him that we come to God, and it is in him that we become the “last…[Read more]

Wakeup………So Jesus was praying to himself when he said this….. “OUR” FATHER  who is in heaven, Holy be “THY” name, “THY” kingdom come , “THY” will be done, on earth as in heaven…….> So to you the word “THY” means Jesus right? Wait, There more, when Jesus said “THOU” the “ONLY” true GOD Tell me Wakeup was Jesus talking about Himself…[Read more]

Wakeup………Before you can even get started in knowing the truth , you have to come to see Jesus was a MAN, and never a God of any kind, and He never existed before his berth on this earth, except in the PLAN and WILL Of the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD, who by the way Jesus said was HIS GOD also. Let this truth in and it will enlighten you and you…[Read more]

Terricca and wakeup………Wrong Me and Marty understand exactly what we are reading and our understanding  lines up with all scriptures. You guys cant even believe simple straight foreword scriptures, like where Jesus said to His God, thou art the “ONLY” true God. Did you guys miss the word “ONLY”  there. or perhaps this is even clearer for y…[Read more]

MIke …….I have a question for you, what does the actual “WORD” GOD mean to you? , I want your actual understanding of its definition, and what it implies to you. peace and love……………………………..gene

To All………. All have sinned and all will die, that is the Judgement of the ONE and ONLY GOD, from the start of mans existence, the SOUL that sins “IT” SHALL DIE, and again “ALL” have sinned and come short of the Glory of GOD Now therefore all SOULS “MUST” DIE, and they ALL will die in A DAY which is a (1000 YEAR PERIOD) With GOD.  No one…[Read more]

Wakeup, Wakeup, Wakeup,……. Let look at this again brother, Thus saith the LORD the KING of ISRAEL, And “HIS” (ISRAEL'S) redeemer, the LORD of hosts, I am the first and the Last, and beside “ME” there is “NO” GOD. Wakeup, there you have it in a nut shell, if you would only believe that alone, it would straighten out so much for you. The…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2014,13:58)Gene, does the FACT that the King of Abyissinia's SPOKESMAN was called “The Word of the King” imply that the king's SPOKESMAN was in fact a literal spoken word or words from the king?   YES or NO?Mike….. NO The spokesman was not the LITERIAL word of the KING, because he spoke the kings word , he was the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2014,14:06)I would die 100 torturous deaths in exchange for eternity at God's right hand, ruling over heaven and earth as the second most powerful being in existence.And during each torturous death, I would NOT be telling people I was “making a great sacrifice” for them.  I would be laughing through the pain and…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 10 2014,13:29)T8:This is what I said.Quote I am one of God's creatures, and a son of God by the Spirit of adoption through Jesus Christ, my Lord, and He alone created Adam, but He did not create me as he did Adam.I am born of Adam's seed, but no He did not create me, He formed me in the womb from the sperm of Adam in the womb…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 08 2014,10:27)Even John Locke and Isaac Newton appear to have maintained belief in the pre-existence of Christ despite their rejection of the Trinity. I concur with them on this as do many others.T8……Would like to see where Issac Newton and John Locke agrees with the preexistence of Jesus. Please post where you ever read that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2014,11:57)If God did just create a savior on the spot, then Jesus didn't really “sacrifice” anything at all.  Instead, he won the greatest lottery of all time.Mike…….”If God created a savior “ON THE SPOT”? are you kidding, Jesus was Prophesied to come into existence right from the beginning of creation, there are…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2014,11:38)I want to know why those SAME EXACT REASONS cannot by applied in John 1:1 and 1:14.Mike……..Simple, It's one thing to say, Jesus speaks GOD the FATHERS Word to us, and it's quite different to say He “IS” those WORDS, so you can Get it to say Jesus is (A) GOD . Now there you have it, clear as can be said.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 07 2014,15:54)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 06 2014,22:24)Hi Pierre:In response to your post, the scriptures state:Quote Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 07 2014,09:02)Gene,Quote Kerwin………The reason Jesus used that scripture was to make a point, that if scripture says they (the pharisees) themselves  “Belonged” to GOD in a possessive sense then,  Why were they upset with Jesus when he said , he was God's Son then.They lacked understanding as their decedents even admit t…[Read more]

Kerwin………The reason Jesus used that scripture was to make a point, that if scripture says they (the pharisees) themselves  “Belonged” to GOD in a possessive sense then,  Why were they upset with Jesus when he said , he was God's Son then. another word they could say they were the children of God but Jesus couldn't?,  Jesus did not mean He…[Read more]

Marty……….That is absolutely right brother, Jesus is the summation of all things because he is the fulfillment of that Goal God had in mind for us all , that is exactly why He said I am the first “AND” the last He is the first to achieve that Goal and the Last will be Just like HIM, in that way all things are summed up in Christ, both in…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 07 2014,02:28)Hi Gene:All we can do is keep sharing the truth with them, and praying that God will reveal to them that it is the truth.Love in Christ,MartyMarty……….Amen brother, we are being exercised by all this for a future time. There is a prophesy, as i recall that says, I saw the lord descending from Mount Paron…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 06 2014,05:46)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 05 2014,08:56)Marty……….I have no problem with that , It is Jesus who is to have that “NAME” on Him. why because he will be “REPRESENTING” and “SPEAKING” GOD'S the FATHERS words to us.So why then can't Jesus be the one who “has that name on him” in John 1:1 and 1:14 – for that…[Read more]

Wakeup………This “MAN” JESUS, is “CALLED” the word of God , but that in no way is saying “IS” the word of GOD now is it?, Being called something is only in reference to something that is being done, do you See what i am saying, being called something is far from actually being it right? Here is a example of what you and others are doing, >…[Read more]