Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 19 2014,07:14)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2014,05:18)Quote (sonofGod @ Jan. 18 2014,23:40)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2014,03:17)wQuote I John 4 does not read, “God came in the flesh”It reads, “Jesus Christ is come in the flesh”It is that simpleJesus Christ is come in the flesh.why does it say that “a man as come in a man…[Read more]

Marty……… Eph 1:11…> In whom also we have obtained and inheritance, being “predestined” according to the purpose of him who WORKS “ALL” THINGS, after the council of his “OWN” WILL Amen to that brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene

Terricca……..Why do you “LIMIT” Gods power and knowledge by saying he did not know man would fall. God know all along we would “EXPERIENCE” GOOD “AND” EVIL or why even put that option before Mentally blinded people, who eyes were closed to it, in the first place.   “When”, did God say look the man has become as “WE” ARE , TO “KNOW”…[Read more]

Wakeup………What your doing is neglecting all the other scriptures that show it differently, you've narrowed you view to only as few scriptures and then even force the text to say what they do not really mean, like Mike and T8 and Terricca do and most all Trinitarians and Preexistence's do. . You need to steep back and consider “ALL”…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 18 2014,02:31)Whether they implied what, they (the jews) said or whether they said it,  he did not say that had seen Abraham, and so, if that is what he meant by his statement, “Abraham rejoiced to see my day, and he saw it, and was glad”, of course it was would be impossible, but he did not say that, did he?And what he said…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 15 2014,21:39)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 14 2014,23:10)Seeking truth.Now you are bashing the Holy bible,because it is not saying what you want to hear.Jehovah Jereh.The Lord will provide us with the right book for us to seek.Do you agree with this one:I kill and make alive.Is killing not evil?The law says: Thou shalt not…[Read more]

sonofgod……….. There is no scripture that says, a WILL is Free. We have been given “LIBERTY” to exercise our “INFLUENCED” WILLS>  But WILL themselves are not FREE, they are the product of “INFLUENCED THINKING”, So they can't be FREE “themselves”. Even God's Will is not FREE, for God does all things after the “COUNCIL”of his WILL, What is…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,17:40)The God we worship is A spirit.He is light physically and spiritually.All things are MADE by Him.He created evil also.This is not to say that HE IS EVIL,but He can do evil.Instead He created evil;and he did.He did it for the good.He has planned to have His own Son crucified.That seemed an evil thing to do; but we…[Read more]

To All……….Wisdom is not a PERSON of any kind, it is a Spiritual attribute, of Cognate thought, and anyone can have it. Wisdom is the wise use of he Knowledge we all have. It is Given by God and it is the Chief Spiritual Attribute that God uses in all his Doings. Jesus is Not Wisdom Himself, even if he has and uses the wisdom that is in…[Read more]

Mike………..I suppose you believe, the Greek's did not have a word for “ALIVE”, also in you rendition of the languages, but the fact is they do, and If Jesus was meaning he was ALIVE before Abraham Existed, he would have “OBVIOUSLY” used it. But that is not the case there now is it? So that leaves us to ponder what Jesus really meant by His…[Read more]

Mike………So let go with the first part of your rendition of the Scripture,  Before Abraham “come to Be” I am “I AM” What? , I am Mentioned  in scriptures? I am spoken about?, , I am existing a Sentinel Bring?  I am  that I am as wakeup believes?  an on, an on, it goes to infinity. So what can give us a clue as to what Jesus was refe…[Read more]

Mike……it could mean that , but it also could mean Jesus was mentioned in the scriptures before Abraham and therefore was more important, in the plan and purpose then Abraham. The Jew were alway barging that they were the children  of Abraham and  that was their way of identifying themselves as GOD'S people, even Jesus used it when he said, “…[Read more]

To All……….Please consider ………> If Jesus was a “ordinary”  human who came into being, at the time of his conception on this earth, and came into “BEING” Just as we do. A Child who was predestined, a Child , who God was with from his conception, a child who grew in stature and mental development just as we do,  who had the same kind o…[Read more]

Mike…….I see no problem understanding what Jesus meant by Before Abraham I am, in the English language. The word before can mean in front of as in place, of importance, which seems to be the issue Jesus was dealing with, not his genealogy. Your taking it as he was existing as a Sentinel Being , but if that was true them why does scripture say…[Read more]

T8………I know what you believe, But did God foreknew me before i was born, Yes he did, it was him Who gave my Spirit in me, Scripture clearly say , for whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the (IMAGE) of his dear son. Did The LORD Our God know Jeremiah before he was ever born?, Here is what scripture says, Please notice…[Read more]

Mike…… Sence by “MAN” sin came into the world , it is by the “MAN” Jesus Christ , it was atoned for. Not by a “MORPHED” Prexisting being of any type. By A “MAN” Mike, not by a “MORPHED” being disguising himself as a MAN for a short period of time, Which is your rendition. You have not produced one scripture where anyone was changed from his…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2014,09:04)My answer is the correct one, which is:  Wisdom is neuter, because it is a THING, and not a PERSON.Mike……So why do you say Wisdom is “metaphorically” speaking of Jesus, in Proverbs 8 , then? Is that not and “ASSUMPTION” on your Part MIKE? peace and love to you and yours…………………………..gene

Mike……….Wisdom is “NOT” a Person it is an “ATTRIBUTE” supplied by one of the seven Spirits of Our God. It is the Chief of his spirits and supplies the LORD our GOD, and anyone who has it, with the ability to REASON and use KNOWLEDGE WISELY.  Because it is an “INDIVIDUAL” attribute of God, it can be Metaphorically be presented , just like…[Read more]

Terrica……. That scripture does not say “Supreme” God , it say “TRUE” GOD, so why do you try to change its meaning to fit yours and Mike's false teachings? Being a President is one thing or even a Judge, or ruler, but being (A) GOD is quite another. The meaning of the word President does not require devotion or even trust and faith in, But…[Read more]

T8……….How can you say we believe God just “INSTANTLY” Created another human to save all humans? It was planned by God, from the very beginning of his human creation to do that, nothing “INSTANT” about it. It all was in the will and foreknowledge of God  from the start. Jesus' genealogy is listed in scripture from his berth on this earth all…[Read more]