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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Marty……..True Faith is a gift of GOD. It is not from the self. It is brought about by the Spirit of God. For God gives to every man a “MEASURE” of Faith. It takes faith to believe in the first place, belief is not by the FREEWILL of a persons own self. IT takes a “revelation” from God, in the MIND of a PERSON.Scripture says, for when they (…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Marty……..Again your ignoring the point is that we were talking about here , it was that a man on his “OWN” So called “FREE” WILL Choices does all the choosing and repenting as a result of His own doing . I say that is not true, Repentance is a Work of GOD “IN” a Person , Those people were “PRICKED” IN there HEART of the WRONG they Had Do…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Marty…….So on the day of Pentacost all the sudden these Three thousand or so People Just By there own “FREE WILL Choices decided to Change there Minds on there own is that what you get out of the Day of Pentecost or was it as the Prophet Joule said, In the latter days I (God), shall pour forth of my Spirit on all Flesh. do you actually b…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Wakeup………..The Potter takes the raw clay and adds water to it and put it on, the potters Wheel and “FORMS” it as He Pleases. He has “complete” Power over it , the clay can not tell the Potter to make him this way or that way, The Potter is “TOTALLY” in control of the lump of Clay to Make it as He pleases. Even so God is in TOTAL control…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (942767 @ Feb. 14 2014,00:37)These men when they realized what they had done wanted to know what shall we do. To do something requires and action that someone chooses to do, and then Peter's response was that they “had to repent and be baptized” and this also requires and action that is a choice if they do it.And yes, Joshua was an…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 13 2014,11:44)Gene,James 4:4Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.It is our CHOICE, Gene. And we make those kinds of CHOICES by our own free will.In fact, the Greek word translated as “chooses” in the NIV above means:boulomai1) to will deliberately, have a purpose, be…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (942767 @ Feb. 12 2014,11:34)No, Gene, you say that I am a false teacher, but I normally just let the scriptures determine who is teaching false doctrine. While it is true that I did not come looking for God, but He came looking for me. It is I that had to accept His offer of forgiveness and to be reconciled to Him. God will not force an…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2014,08:41)Ezekiel 1826 If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin, they will die for it; because of the sin they have committed they will die. 27 But if a wicked person turns away from the wickedness they have committed and does what is just and right, they will save their life. 28 Because…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 11 2014,20:22)If there were two groups of people, one who were predestined for glory and the other who were predestined for the Lake of Fire and to suffer the wrath of God, and I happened to be in the group destined for glory, surely I would look upon the other group in great pity and sorrow. To know that they were just like me,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Wakeup………Have you noticed T8 never address the scriptures we have posted in backing up what we have said. He goes and desperately finds a scripture where King David Said something “he” wanted to happen, and presents it as if God said it. He completely ignores other Scriptures Like where it say , for whom the LORD foreknew, he also “…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 11 2014,06:48)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 10 2014,08:52)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 10 2014,05:48)Marty……….No Marty “BEFORE” you have been Saved the HOLY SPIRIT leads you to Christ, Not after brother. That is what Jesus meant by “NO MAN CAN COME UNTO ME”, what DRAWS US to Jesus, is From God not from ourselves, God turns us to J…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2014,08:07)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 09 2014,13:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 10 2014,04:13)Gene,I only want to know if the man who raped the little boy did so because of his own free will, or if God DESTINED him to rape that little boy.Which one?MIke………No, He did it by his Carnal Born human mind that Natural Mind…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Marty………This is “A” Day of Salvation Who ever said it is the ONLY DAY of SALVATION and again every Man in His or Her ORDER I believe that all will eventually come to repent, When God the Fathers Sprit starts to work with then. Your concept as a even playing field for everyone is not valid Marty, because some never will get it in this…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (942767 @ Feb. 10 2014,23:57)From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.Did those disciples that stayed with him when they did not understand what he was saying by “eating his flesh and drinking his blood” and those who walked a way have “a choice”?Love in Christ,MartyMarty……..Marty the Gospel “itself”…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 10 2014,04:13)Gene,I only want to know if the man who raped the little boy did so because of his own free will, or if God DESTINED him to rape that little boy.Which one?MIke………No, He did it by his Carnal Born human mind that Natural Mind set is what brought his will into “captivity” and he sinned . You and I have…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Marty……….No Marty “BEFORE” you have been Saved the HOLY SPIRIT leads you to Christ, Not after brother. That is what Jesus meant by “NO MAN CAN COME UNTO ME”, what DRAWS US to Jesus, is From God not from ourselves, God turns us to Jesus in our minds by a revealing process, and this starts our salvation process, it has nothing to do with u…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 10 2014,03:16)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 09 2014,10:07)T8……..And you on the other hand, believe you are Self righteous enough to Chose you own destiny , with or without God , You base your salvation of your Self…………Gene,Are you saying that God made the specific choice to have a certain person rape a little…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (942767 @ Feb. 09 2014,11:00)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 09 2014,04:34)Marty.I agree with that.The devil also tried to tempt Jesus with the materialthat he could offer. If we are lovers of God;we dont care much about the mateial things this world can offer.We all tend to desire all the nice things in life,but we also are aware not to be slaves to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Proclaimer Mikeboll64 vs JB2U in the forum Debates 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 09 2014,10:46)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 08 2014,02:53)To All………God created all spirits and therefore He knows what they all will do, even Satan , God always knew what he would do, scripture tells us there is nothing hidden from God , so that alone should tell us that He is all Knowing. He knows us and what we will do from…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is it impossible for God to be or do evil in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (942767 @ Feb. 10 2014,01:43)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 09 2014,15:32)Marty.God breathed the breath of life,and adam BECAME a living soul. We are all living souls with only two choices.1. Go for the desires of the flesh.2.Go for the desires of the spirit.Temptations comes from the outside;what we see and hear.To stimulate the desires of the…[Read more]
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