Marty………Your drifting from the Main Point, we all know God uses Evil to discipline his Children that is Obvious . But who created EVIL in the First Place was it GOD or someone else. I believe it was God , Just as He created Good also, he created Evil ,and the balance of these gives us meaning to what LIFE itself IS. That is like saying God…[Read more]

Jammin……….My argument doe not say my Soul is not me, it is saying my Body can be a temple of the living God, or haven't you read, “KNOW YOU NOT YOUR “BODIES” ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE LIVING GOD. How is my body a “TEMPLE” of the Living GOD, if GOD is not in it also with me? Haven't you read, where God spoke through Jesus and said, “DESTROY this…[Read more]

Jammin……….Your half way right, Jesus said clearly that the FATHER was “IN” Him he never said He was the Father Or for that matter He never said he was a God either, Jesus said he was going to “HIS” GOD and Identified it as OUR GOD ALSO, He was Going TO “HIS” FATHER and OUR FATHER ALSO. So by Jesus' own Mouth He Identifies himself with Us and…[Read more]

Marty……..Your examples of God “USING” Evil to bring judgement on people is true , but to say God did not Create EVIL, would be the same as saying He did not created GOOD either. God Created Both of them that is, if you believe God created Life at all, because both are aspects of what LIFE consists of.  Answer this one question OK, did God…[Read more]

To all…….All the Evil, scripture says God brings on people, is still Evil, no matter what the reason, Right. So to say God does not, create Evil in some circumstances is false, because he truly does. Tell us who made the Tree of Good “AND” EVIL, was it not God?, and who placed it in the Garden of Eden was it not God? Now if you are going to…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 24 2014,05:38)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 24 2014,02:44)To All……..Now you have moved this argument to, that i am saying we do not have a WILL, that is Not the Point here I perfectly well know we all have will, the question He are those WILL “FREE” Not one scripture Posted by anyone say they ARE “FREE, but every thing…[Read more]

To All……..Now you have moved this argument to, that i am saying we do not have a WILL, that is Not the Point here I perfectly well know we all have will, the question He are those WILL “FREE” Not one scripture Posted by anyone say they ARE “FREE, but every thing posted is about a driven will and that is hardly a description of a WILL being “IT…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2014,04:01)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 22 2014,10:40)Mike………So your Words are not a expression of yourself……….. Any on with half a brain can see a Persons words “ARE” a Representative of HIS MINDSee the word “OF”, Gene?Do you know what that word means?  I learned it at a very early age.  Have you not yet l…[Read more]

Mike………So your Words are not a expression of yourself, O really?,  they  do not come from YOU, they are Not an expression of Your mind coming FROM YOU . Right? So Mike tell us whose words are you speaking then, if not your own, Now talk about stupid, ignorant, Gibberish, Any on with half a brain can see a Persons words “ARE” a R…[Read more]

Marty……..Yes, but that decision was not based on a WILL the was “FREE”, even though your action was, Get it?, Now let use an example , I will set before you three pieces of Pie. One a Cherry  , one an apple , one a Peach, and asK you to pick one, so let say you “FREELY” Chose the Apple pie, Now was that choice based on a WILL, that was “FREE…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Feb. 21 2014,04:53)3.1 sam. 2:61Sa 2:7The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up. 1Sa 2:8He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2014,11:18)Quote (jammin @ Feb. 20 2014,10:43)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 21 2014,01:58)To All…….> The LORD our GOD and His words are ONE AND THE SAME, just as your words and you are, one and the same being. Not an OUNCE of Difference as concerning words, only you and I simple do not have HIS POWER, to bring about…[Read more]

Jammin…….Kerwin is right, the word in Greek used there is ” ek-i'-mos” it's the same word for “IT” as well as He. So It can, and in most cases should be used as IT when referencing to Spirit. Spirit is not a Person “IT” is the “INTELLECT” that is “IN” a Person. Common sense 101!.Trinitarians and Preexistence's want to Personify the Spirit…[Read more]

To All…….> The LORD our GOD and His words are ONE AND THE SAME, just as your words and you are, one and the same being. Not an OUNCE of Difference as concerning words, only you and I simple do not have HIS POWER, to bring about our words, like, God the Father does. Neither did or does Jesus. Jesus never did ONE MIRACLE “HIMSELF” it was GOD…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2014,08:59)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 20 2014,03:21)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2014,07:54)DECEIT COMES IN MANY FORM BUT ALWAYS STARTING FROM OUR OWN VIEW (S) SO READ THE SCRIPTURES WITHOUT YOUR OWN INPUT ,The serpent deceived Eve with nice lying words.Watch for those that speaks nice words.There is a hook in the bait.Nice…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 20 2014,09:10)Gene, if God chose you to rebel in the last hour before your death, and when you died, you went to the grave to await the great judgement to be judged as wicked, then according to what you believe and preach, you could not complain about it, but accept it because it fits right into your view and…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 15 2014,05:50)I KILL AND MAKE ALIVE.I CREATED THE DESTROYER TO DESTROY.I THE LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS.I CREATE LIGHT AND DARKNESS.I CREATE EVIL.IS THERE EVIL IN A CITY AND I DID NOT DO IT?TERRA SAID NO; YOU *CAN NOT* DO IT GOD.GOD IS IMPOTENT IN THOSE THINGS.BECAUSE GOD IS LOVE.HE CAN NOT HANDLE KILLING HIS CREATION.HIS LOVE…[Read more]

Marty………….Show ONE Scripture that says “GOD CREATED ALL RATIONAL CREATURES WITH a “FREEWILL”. Please Post it if it is said like that in any scripture. If God created and want us with a “so-called” Will that is FREE, then why does he “COMMAND” anything , why not just ask us instead if we will do this or that, The TEN, if you WILL OBEYS,…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 18 2014,07:48)Quote (942767 @ Feb. 16 2014,23:03)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2014,13:13)This is the reason why:God created good and evil,so men can make *a choice*.This is the reason why God put the tree of good and evil in the garden;so Adam and Eve can make a *choice*.God calls us to come,and some will come,and some will not…[Read more]

Marty………If we Chose by are so-called “fREEWILLS” Which is the issue here, Then tell us why do we need the HOLY SPIRIT to ABIDE IN US in the first Place. Why doe GOd have to KEEP us, Like it says The LORD bless us and “KEEP” US> why did Jesus tell Peter it was God who revealed who Jesus was unto Him , why not Jesus himself?. Why did He say…[Read more]