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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    Kerwin……….Nothing  comes just from ourselves ,  spirits that are in us comes from outside of ourselves. John said , ALL that is in the world, the lust of the flesh , the lust of the eyes, the pride of life  COMES FROM THE “WORLD”,  the world is passing away and so is the lust there of.

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    Kerwin…….. I think you may be getting to what I have been saying about A  SO-CALLED , WILL THAT IS FREE, not sure though. If a will is totally free  it must be also free from influences of any kind , or it simply is not truly FREE, Which also would mean God has No true influence on us either , but scripture say We “CAN’T” even come to Jesus u…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Wakeup………There is no spirit “OF” the flesh, there is spirit “IN” flesh. Jesus said when a unclean spirit leaves a man it goes into ARID places looking for REST, but finding none it goes back and find the house (FLESH) CLEAN, and goes back and takes other spirits worse then itself, and the LAST STATE OF THAT MAN IS WORSE THEN THE FIRST STATE…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    SonofGod……….Good post i also believe we are living souls which is a body and when the breath of life is functioning in it it becomes known as a “LIVING SOUL”. IT is capable of PERISHING in the GRAVE, and ceasing to exist forever. That is why it is absolutely crucial we attain unto the resurrection of our bodies from there corrupted state of…[Read more]

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    Kerwin……..Tell me what does the word YOU mean to you, does it mean just PART of you or ALL of YOU, now if God said YOU shall Surely DIE was he only referencing Part of a Person or all of a person, and when he said “YOU”, “ARE” dust, and To dust “YOU” shall RETURN, was he just referencing PART of the, “YOU”, or ALL, of the “YOU” ?

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    Quote (Wakeup @ June 11 2014,01:13)He is worthy to be worshipped as God.Every knee shall bow before Him.(this glory given by His father).Wakeup………Every knees shall bow to Jesus Christ To the 'GLORY OF THE FATHER” Not to the GLORY of JESUS as you falsly ASSUME. IMOpeace and love to you and yours………………………..gene

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    Quote (jammin @ June 26 2014,15:31)if Christ is not really God by nature,he should have told to the jews “no”! i am not God. you are wrong! but Christ never told that to the jews. the apostles know he is God by nature, john 1.1 phil 2.6 john 20.28better luck next time boy hahahahJammin………. Why callest me GOOD there is none good but “ONE” and…[Read more]

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    Wakeup………I said clearly i do “NOT” Worship Jesus Not now or ever WILL.  You can not produce one place where i ever said i Worshiped Jesus. I stand by every thing i have written about the LIEs of SATAN and HIS MINISTERS false preachers. I say GOD and HIS WORD are ONE and the Same thing, Just as you and your Words ARE, the Same. Jesus Never…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 26 2014,06:21)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2014,20:04)Quote (kerwin @ June 23 2014,05:49)Gene,I believe God as Adam and Even did die though their souls are at res in Sheol, the realm of the dead.  They died because their temple, their body, died even though their soul departed and descended to Sheol.  Their soul was not d…[Read more]

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    To All……….Faith “IS” the substance of things HOPED FOR, the the “EVEDIENCE” of things Not SEEN. GOd is not SEEN and so what is your EVIDENCE in the UNSEEN GOD and that is the MEASURe of YOU FAITH. Have you FAITH, have it unto YOURSELF and again , When the Son of Man comes, will he find FAITH in the EARTH? I doubt it, much SUPPOSITIONS…[Read more]

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    Wakeup……..How does what i have said before differ from what i am sayoing now? Please try to be specific brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………gene

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 23 2014,05:49)Gene,I believe God as Adam and Even did die though their souls are at res in Sheol, the realm of the dead.  They died because their temple, their body, died even though their soul departed and descended to Sheol.  Their soul was not destroyed when they died though their body was as man can only kill the body a…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2014,15:01)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2014,14:52)Wakeup……..Where do you see the words the four beasts and the twenty four elders “WORSHIPED”  the lamb. Falling down before him is not the same as worshiping , it is far from saying they were WORSHIPING Him. Do you think that when a kings servants bow down before him,…[Read more]

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    Wakeup……..Where do you see the words the four beasts and the twenty four elders “WORSHIPED”  the lamb. Falling down before him is not the same as worshiping , it is far from saying they were WORSHIPING Him. Do you think that when a kings servants bow down before him,  they are worshiping him? Do you see the word WORSHIP in Rev 5:12.and do y…[Read more]

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    Wakeup……Show me one scripture that “SPECIFICALLY says God and the Lamb are “WORSHIPED” . God his word are one and the same thing, and neither is Jesus, God's word or words. According to what Jesus Said anyway, but you people can believe what ever you all want to. You can change all the words written to come out anyway you want Wakeup. But I…[Read more]

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    Wakeup……You can worship anyone you or angels want to , As many worship many things, but as for me I will never “WORSHIP” JESUS or Angels , or any other thing in existence except the ONE AND “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, you and anyone else can WORSHIP whom ever you chose, I Will NOT,  BUT I will worship MY GOD and Jesus' GOD , my FATHER and His Father.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2014,05:42)No, and what I want you to explain is this:Why do you believe that “the spirit of Christ” and “Jesus' spirit” are different spirits?EDj………They are different, one is Jesus' own spirit, the other is the CHRISTOS, or the anointing Spirit of GOD which he recieved at the Jordan River.Where it say tha tChrist was…[Read more]

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    Wakeup………Ask yourself this, why woulod the Lamb “RECIEVE IT”   After all you believe He was God Almighty all along right, and another point is i do not see where it say they “WORSHIPED” HIM. That is a major problem of yours, you change wording to force the text to say what it does not 'SPECIFICALLY SAY” ,well you certainly are not alone…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ June 22 2014,15:27)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 22 2014,07:16)Quote (kerwin @ June 22 2014,06:30)T,Quote 1)all. heart ; we understand that this represent the deepest thought and sentiments we have acquired and kept ,It is the spirit that knows the deep thoughts of a man.1 Corinthians 2:11Young's Literal Translation (YLT)11 for who…[Read more]

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