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    Kerwin……. That is correct, where it says “it was Christ that followed the children of
    Israel in the wilderness, it was not talking about Jesus, but the CHRISTOS (anointing spirit of God ), it was the anointing spirit that was on Moses and the seventy elders and Joshua and caleb, it was God who is the spirit, the CHRISTOS (anointing spirit of…[Read more]

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    NICK……… The Lord mentioned there is not Jesus, it is referencing the LORD GOD, not the human lord Jesus the anointed man of God, who was anointed with the Spirit of the Lord (YAHWEH). YOU HAVE NOT YET LEARNED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LORD OR Lord ( adonia) meaning God the Father, and the lord (adoni) the man Jesus, who is not the spirit…[Read more]

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    Nick……..do you honestly think Jesus meant Weare to literally eat his flesh and drink his blood. I am relying on the truth of what Jesus meant. Why can’t you see that Nick?

    peace and love to you and yours………………….gene

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    Nick…….The word eat and drink, can also be used as a Idiom , meaning (to take to one’s self) , just as it is used in Genesis regarding the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Jesus used it to show that we all must take his “sacrifice” of his flesh and blood body for our sins, and apply it, by excepting it ourselves individually, because…[Read more]

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    To all……..Question is, was Jesus raised with the body he now has, I for one believe he was and still has the exact DNA he had while on this earth. GOD DID NOT CREATE FLESH AND BLOOD HUMAN BEING TO DIE AND THEY COULD HAVE LIVE FOREVE WITH THOSE BODY, IF THEY HAD EATEN OF THE “TREEE OF LIVE”, Just as God in Genesis SAID they could have and never…[Read more]

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    Nick……..Jesus did use idioms, like when he referenced Herod as a fox, right, we do not believe Herod was an actual fox do we?, I think kerwin has a point brother.

    Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene
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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 11 months ago

    Kerwin…….Jesus understood his will was different then God the Father’s will, but the Spirit of God’s will, that was in him was greater then his will or desire was. Jesus is held captive to his will just as we are, but as scripture says, ” For He (God) works “IN” us “BOTH” to “WILL” (and) do of his good pleasure. ” God’s spirit produces his…[Read more]

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    Hi…….just as it says God in all and through all, God the father was indeed in Jesus,just as Jesus said he was, he can also be in us, “know you not your body is the temple of the living God”, but none of that makes Jesus or us the God that can in dwell us. IMO

    Peace and love to you all………………….gene

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    Kerwin and Nick……..God said Isa 1:18 “Come now and let us reason together: though your sins be as scarlet they shall be as white as snow; though they be red as crimson they shall be as wool.” The book of Maliciah shows God reasoning with the people of Israel also.

    It seems to me God does see our ability to reason things out even with him,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 11 months ago

    Edj…….The same as yours , your thoughts hold you captive.
    Ever desire which is the true expression of your WILL comes from a influenced source which is hardly free

    Edj…….go back an listen to your posted vedio, and this time try to understand what he is saying with an open mind.

    Peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

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    Nick……..In the last 50 years or so there has been uncovered many older bibical scriptures that are not the same as our text that we have now. There have been numerous changes made from the originals. I asked Kerwin to read a book written by Bart Ehrman on these descovered errors in his book about “misquoting Jesus”, where he brings out so…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 11 months ago

    EDJ……..WRONG I HAVE OVER AND OVER ASK PEOPLE TO PRODUCE A SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS OUR WILLS THEMSELVES ARE FREE, and to answer your question on WHAT IS HOLDING YOUR WILL CAPTIVE ?, YOUR THOUGHTS ARE. AND WHY?, BECAUSE THEY ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, NO ONE ELSE’S THOUGHTS ARE.

    Also rather the man in your posted video believes in God or not is not…[Read more]

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    TO ALL……….God and his words are one and the same thing.

    God the father is a spirit

    The Father who is spirit was in Jesus

    Jesus said the words I am telling you “are” spirit and “life”

    Jesus said the words I am telling are “not” my words but the words of him who sent me.

    Jesus said the son of man can do nothing of himself, the Father who…[Read more]

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    Nick……….The scripture we were dealing was not about the lost but the saved brother.

    Peace and love to you and yours…………….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 11 months ago

    EDJ………STRONG SAYS ned-ab  corresponds to a prime root H5068 naw-dab’ , a primitive root; hence to “volunteer” (as a soldier), to present spontaneously: – offer freely, be  (give, make, offer self) “willing (-ly) 

    None of that talks about the will “ITSELL” being FREE.  While we have liberty to express our Captivated  wills the Will’s themse…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 11 months ago

    EDJ……..SHOW ME THE WORD FREEWILL, in scripture, I see all kind of places where the word WILL is used but not somuch as a word about a FREEWILL, except a place where it is misspelled and  comes from the Hebrew word voluntary offering. There is no word AS “FREEWILL” IN ALL SCRIPTURE. Why can’t you produce something that is scripture backed. I…[Read more]

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    Terricca, Terricca……..You greive my heart, I know you mean well, but you have followed to many false teachers in your life and some here also, I have prayed for you to the Father, that he will grant you to see the truth. Please try to see what we are telling you with an open mind brother, I am not saying we have all the truth, were all still…[Read more]

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    Nick…….I realize that, but it is God’s Spirit that imparts the truth to us, about our sins, that brings us to Godly sorrow, causing repentance and produces the change in our hearts. God the Father is the author and finisher of our salvation. So just as it says “Godly sorrow works repentance not to be repented of”, still stands brother.  I k…[Read more]

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    To all……….Jesus said “CLEARLY” ,FOR YOU ( YAHWEH) ARE THE “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD.

    The word GOD is a descripter, it describes a  “relationship” TO  SOMETHING or SOMEONE. That is why it says, “the LORD (YEHWEH) OUR GOD”, anyone who has or makes or believes in  another big GOD or little god’s , has no part of the “ONLY” TRUE GOD. All who do that…[Read more]

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    Sonofgod and Nick……………Both good answers, God who is the word was indeed “IN” the man Jesus.

     

    Peace and love to you both and yours……………………….gene

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