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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum What does it mean that Jesus came in the flesh? 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick……..you said where does it say spritual dead, tell us what did Jesus mean by this THEN, “LET THE DEAD BURY THE DEAD”. And again, “having eyes to see but see not, having ears to hear but hear not. These are considered spiritually dead. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours……………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick…….Everything that exist now and in the future is susceptible to perishing, tell us one thing that is not susceptible. Are angels, the devil, some future created thing, you have not one scripture that say something is not now or in the future not susceptible to perishing, except God himself.God who brought all things into existence can…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick….I follow no man, what you posted is purely wrong, I believe nothing like you posted there, here is the way I is see we are, a dust from the ground body + the breath of life added into it = A”LIVING SOUL” , JUST THAT SIMPLE, and just that CLEARLY written IN SCRIPTURE, nothing more was added or subtracted.
Gen 2:7….> AND the LORD God,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick…….still dodging Gen 3:22 I see. Yes my master teaches me what is written there is and was true, now what does your master teaching you? So that you do not except those scriptures, would be the question. What is causing to hate flesh and blood human beings so much?, perhaps you are receiving that from your master right?
Peace and love to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick…..Why are you continually dodging the scripture I quoted? If your body could can live forever, that does not qualify it as imperishable? Interesting, are you splitting hairs, OK how about continually being regenerated, forever, does that fit for you?
peace and love to you and yours…………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick…..God said clearly they could have lived forever had they eaten of t he tree of life which was in the midst of the garden.
Gen 3:22… > “And the LORD God said, behold the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and “LIVE FOR EVER”:
Now tell me…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
EDJ…….Good question I really do not know, but I do not believe they did, but when sin entered the picture and death followed, I believe they then came to be a “LITTLE” BELOW the angels, from the stand point that they could die. Just my view point no scripture to back it up. Angels have a relationship to God the Father, but I don’t believe it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick. ….This perishable body of mine is going to become imperishable, a body just like the one Adam and Eve had before they sinned, it will be able to live forever once the effects OF SIN IS REMOVE FROM IT. You have not so much as one scripture that says we will have a different kind of physical body. Not to even mention God knew exactly what he…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick……Kerwin is right about this brother, the present creation will be delivered from its BOND of curroption, and be brought into liberty of the Sons of God. Another point you may have overlooked, is that as the result of sin God limited man’s life, from eternal existence,to a 1000 year, or one day in God’s time frame, but God later again…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Kerwin…….Good point, but Nick said clearly, he did not believe in a “spirit body” of anykind, so in this I think we all agree. What I would like to hear from him is how he views God’s created human bodies as some kind of inferior creation. I think that may be his hang up. I really don’t believe we are all that much apart.
Peace and love to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick…..Ok, at least we know we are together on that, now what I would like to know is why do you think our, present “TYPE” OF BODY WITH THE SPIRIT OF LIFE IN IT COULD NOT LIVE FOREVER? PLEASE BE SPECIFIC, remember I am talking about the same “TYPE” OF PHYSICAL BODIES WE NOW HAVE only regenerated and sustained by the spirit of life. Could not…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick…..First of all the “Cristos” or anointing SPIRIT, never died, so it never was raised from the grave it was the “MAN” Jesus, who died, who is called the anointed one or CRISTOS ,of God, who was raised from the grave. Now if God himself said in Ezekiel 37, that this “is the “WHOLE” HOUSE OF ISRAEL”, AND JESUS, A JEW, AN ISRAELITE HIMSELF,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic the flesh ,the spirit and the soul ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Terricca….. I certainly am not the only one who see it this way, but you along with 90 percent of christendom, do see it your way, “the blind leading the blind”. I listen to everyone, but I also know I have no need of a teacher for the spirit “ITSELF” teaches me all thing I need to know, YOU WOULD DO WELL TO TRUST THE SPIRIT INSTEAD OF ALL THE…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick…….The word spritual body, simply means, (a prysical) body, being kept alive by spirit, because there is no such thing as a “spirit body”, not so much as one scripture say, there are spirit bodies. But scripture does attest that spirits live in physical bodies in many places. Your assumption of there being spirit bodies is wrong NICK. IMO…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick…….maybe this will help you, let’s use this example, I live in my house, a physical structure, made of wood and material things which all comes from the earth, now if I ask you can my house inherit anything , it is obvious it can’t, why because the house is not alive but the person living in that house is alive, so it is with our bodies,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick….read 2 correct 5:2 – 4 , that house described the is a body, it is not a spirit, any way you want to take it it is a body being described t here it is not a spirit body, because we already have the spirit of God in this house or body we now have and if it were to be destroyed we have another body reserved in heaven for us made by God, but…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic the flesh ,the spirit and the soul ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Terricca.. so, there you go again, instead of producing you specific scriptures , you use deceptive words to get around it, As you do with other dogmas you provocative here, very cleaver, but hardly truthfull.IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic the flesh ,the spirit and the soul ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Terricca and Nick……..produce one scripture that says what you have said, the scripture says clearly that God made man out of t g e dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and “THEN” MAN BECAME “A LIVING SOUL” . Now what became a living SOUL “THE MAN”, it was the “COMPLETE MAN” who was the “LIVING SOUL” not just…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Nick……so show us scripture where it says, “this body is “destroyed” and the “soul” rises up either naked or with a new body”. SCRIPTURE PLEASE. Are we not better off to look at what God the Father and Jesus demonstrated for all the world to see. Then believe fairy tales?
Peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Did Jesus undergo the final resurection? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Terricca……notice closely, this what? This “mortal” must “put on” “Imortality”, now ask yourself what is putting on “imortality” “THIS MORTAL” , no where does he say a new “being” is putting imortality , but this “mortal, being is putting on imortal. Your false assumption is that he is not talking about this present mortal body, putting on…[Read more]
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