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    Terricca…….it is not written, “shall not” , it is “should not” there is a difference.

    Scripture also say God is not willing the even the evil should parish, but that all would come to repentence.

    EZK33:11… SAY UNTO THEM, AS I LIVE, SAYS THE LORD, I HAVE NO PLEASURE IN THE DEAD OF THE WICKED, BUT THAT THE WICKED TURN FROM HIS WAY AND LIVE:…[Read more]

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    Nick…….I realize you don’t believe God is intellegent, in fact you seem to have no idea what a spirit is at
    all, even though scripture is full of explaining the word, words are expression of intellects and Jesus said the words he was speaking to us are spirit and life so try to put it together if you can. It might be to hard for you, so I…[Read more]

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    Nick…….I realize you don’t believe God is intellegent, in fact you seem to have no idea what a spirit is AR all, even though scripture is full of explaining the word, words are expression of intellects and Jesus said the words he was speaking to us was spirit and life so try to put it together if you can. It might be to hard for you, so I will…[Read more]

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    Nick…….The new body is a extension of the old, it is regenerated by the seed of life the spirit, I have offered many scriptures that absolutely prove that point. Your refusal to answer WHAT PAUL WAS REFERENCING proves it. Paul know full well, it is our same body that will be spiritually activated, that will rise from the grave, God showed…[Read more]

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    Nick…….the new body is a extension of the old, it is regenerated by the seed of life the spirit, I have offered many scriptures that absolutely provethe point. Your refusal to answer WHAT PAUL WAS REFERENCING proves it. Paul new full well it is the same body that will be spiritually activated that will rise from the grave, God show plainly…[Read more]

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    Nick……the seed contains the plant which it came from and reproduces it just as it was. Not so much as an ounce of difference,infact the seed can “ONL”Y PRODUCE IT ORIGINAL SELf. It’s all contained in the seed, a cornered will not produce a cabbage, carrots, oats, or any thing other then what it was, no matter what you think it can produce.…[Read more]

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    Nick… obviously you don’t care about what Paul meant or you would answer my question about what he said.

    Do you really think ignoring it can make you right and us wrong? Please answer the question if you can’t just admit it.

    Peace and love to you and your……………..gene

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    Nick……take a seed and see where it came from and then plant it , does a different plant come up or the exact same plant the produced the seed in the first place.

    NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION TO YOU OK? QUITE IGNORING IT.

    Peace and love to you and yours………………gene

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    Nick……take a seed and see where it came from and then plant it , does a different plant come up or t g e exact same plant the produced the seed in the first place.

    NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION TO YOU OK? QUITE IGNORING IT.

    Peace and love to you and yours………………gene

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    Nick……the seed contains the same plant it came from not a different one DNA PRODUCE ONLY IT SELF AGAIN NOT SOMETHING ELSE’S OF A DIFFERENCE KIND AS YOU ASSUME.

    NOW QUITE JUMPING AROUND MY QUESTION TO YOU AND ANSWER IT OK? Ignoring IT ONLY SHOW YOU ARE WRONG ON YOU OUR ASSUMPTION ABOUT OUR RESURECTED BODIES. IMO

    peace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    Nick……the seed contains the same plant it came from not a different one DNA PRODUCE ONLY IT SELF AGAIN NOT SOMETHING ELSE’S OF A DIFFERENCE KIND AS YOU ASSUME.

    NOW QUITE JUMPING AROUND MY QUESTION TO YOU AND ANSWER IT OK? I GOING IT ONLY SHOW YOU ARE WRONG ON YOU OUR ASSUMPTION ABOUT OUR RESURECTED BODIES. IMO

    peace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    Nick………yes it is, the exact DNA COME BACK TO LIFE, what does this mean to you, “if the spirit of him that raised christ Jesus from the grave dwell in you he shall quicken your mortal (dead) body. Now do you think it is speaking of a different body then the dead or MORTAL BODY “ALSO”?

    NICK quite avoiding my direct question to you, was…[Read more]

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    Nick………yes it is, the exact DNA COME BACK TO LIFE, what does this mean to you, “if the spirit of him that raised christ Jesus from the grave dwell in you he shall quicken your mortal (dead) body. Now do you think it is speaking of a different body then the dead or MORTAL BODY?

    NICK quite avoiding my direct question to you, was the “IT”…[Read more]

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    Nick………yes it is, the exact DNA COME BACK TO LIFE, what does this mean to you, “if the spirit that raised christ Jesus from the grave dwell in you he shall quicken your mortal (dead) body. Now do you think it is speaking of a different body then the dead or MORTAL BODY?

    NICK quite avoiding my direct question to you, was the “IT” PAUL…[Read more]

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    Nick…….why have you not answered my last post to you, what was the “IT” The apostle Paul was talking about? Was it not our present BODIES? YES OR NO please.

    Peace and love to you and yours………………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 10 months ago

    Kerwin…….True and it is the hunger that makes them will, “blessed is he who hungers and thrust after righteousness he shall be filled”. AGAIN wills are driven and not free themselves. IMO

    peace and love to you and yoyrs…………………gene

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    Nick…….quite playing games and answer the question ask you, who was the “IT” PAUL was talking about. Why keep evading the question. Was the word “IT” REFERENCING our present bodies or not? YES OR NO

    peace and love to you and yours……………….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 10 months ago

    Kerwin……a computer will perform exactly as it was programed , so will all things in creation, everything performs as it is made even man as well. Again I have never said we do not have a will that has no liberty to exercise it desires. I again, am talking about the very will “ITSELF”, NOT WHAT GOD ALLOWS IT TO DO.

    Peace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    Nick……stick with what I posted first and the we will again talk about your deversions. Again, what did Paul mean by the word “IT”, WAS IT OUR PRESENT BODIES HE WAS TALKING ABOUT OR NOT, lets Skip the shell game switch, let’s deal with this one question first, IF YOU CAN, OK.

    Peace and love to you and yours…………….gene

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    Nick……..I try to make scripture agree with me?, just read what I quoted Paul saying and use common English sense, and if I am wrong then show it. What is the “IT” PAUL IS TALKING ABOUT. Don’t try to play a shell game with me Nick, just see if you can answer that simple questions for a change. I know you will deny it because it completely goes…[Read more]

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