Carmilla…. Nick is right on this, God the Father was truly in him, by the anointing Spirit that abided in him. Think your problem is your not seeing JESUS as a ordinary human being, a man who became the messiahs by the anointing of the Holy Spirit of God, the exact same thing can happen to any man God elects to, and that person can perform the…[Read more]

Kerwin…….your post does not deal with the issue of my post, how can a person will repentence if God give it, and how can a person be taken “CAPTIVE” BY THE WILL OF ANOTHER IF HIS WILL is truly “free”, Obvisely that would be impossible for any thing to control or “CAPTIVATE” anyone if our WILLS we “FREE” , IF A PERSONS MIND OR HEART IS HELD…[Read more]

Kerwin……..so you go from one type of captivity to another, so christ led captive a host OF CAPTIVES.

Weare told in 2 Ths 2:23-26…..But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 24, and the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient. 25, In meekness instructing…[Read more]

T8…Where would i be?, seeing i believe there is “ONLY” ONE “TRUE” GOD. And i do not believe Jesus is a God of anykind not now or ever was, nor that he was morphed into a human body from a pryer existence , nor ever existed before his berth on this earth.

peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene

Kerwin……..That is correct, we all have that working in us, our mind will one thing but we all find another law (force compliance) working in our members or body, these two forces are contary to one another, causing us to exist in a wretched state, as Paul described it. So obviously our will are not free they are held in captivity to these…[Read more]

Wakeup…….I think NICK IS RIGHT about the kingdom of God not being in all at this time, not all have recieved it yet, not all have the SPIRIT IN THEM at this time. But yes JESUS DID DIE FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD, John said, he died not for just our sins only, but for the sins of the whole world also.

Peace and love to you and…[Read more]

Wakeup…….GOOD and accurate post brother. There is only ONE TRUE GOD AND THERE IS NO OTHER GOD. With that being said, there has been many changes to our present text especially the new testament over time, because of verious factions and sects of Christianity trying to force the original recieved writings they were given by the apostles to…[Read more]

Edj……Why restore to personal attacks, because i disagree with you , i am not trying to captivate anyone here, you have only produced one scripture which does not address the actual will it self, and then draw all kind of conclusions about it, that is all i have ever ask anyone here is to produce a single scripture that says a man has a WILL…[Read more]

To all…..TESTING scriptures produces no FAITH AT ALL, it only shows who is right or wrong about how our text is being interpreted, from a varity of different religious ideologies AND interpretations and translations. True faith in a living God goes far beyond scriptural knowledge. It takes a real comunication with GOD, A TRUE DIALOGUE WITH HIM,…[Read more]

Carmilla……..Right, without evidence there is only supositions, and assumptions, of men. EVIDENCE means what the word implys, but men don’t press the issue to prove GOD, AND AS A RESULT HAVE A ONLY A FORM OF FAITH, But true FAITH is built on literial “EVIDENCE”, NOT HEARSAY, OR SUPOSITIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS OF MERE MEN.

Therefore it says…[Read more]

Carmilla……..Right without evidence there is only supositions, and assumptions, of men. EVIDENCE means what the word implys, but men don’t press the issue to prove GOD, AND AS A RESULT HAVE A ONLY A FORM OF FAITH, But true FAITH is built on literial “EVIDENCE”, NOT HEARSAY, OR SUPOSITIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS OF MERE MEN.

Therefore it says…[Read more]

T8……Posting here has nothing to do with a will that is free, it has to do with my desire to post , which drives my will to. The freedom offered by this site allows me to expression of my thoughts, which are driving my mind, nothing free about it. T8, have you went to the site i posted and read what L. RAY SMITH WROTE ABOUT FREEWILLS, GIVE IT A…[Read more]

Edj………so say you, but if your will was free meaning without any restraint or control you would simply be an idiot. Without the ability of any determination, or reason of any kind, just a free radical drifiting around in endless space not subject to anything, God or man, no ability to have fear, love, no ability to have any reasonable…[Read more]

Kerwin…….THE APOSTLE PAUL CHOSE NOT TO SIN, BUT WHAT DID HE SAY, ” the good that i would do, i do not, but the thing i chose not to do , that i do, O wrethed man that i am , who can deliever me from this body of death, so Paul willed not to sin, but that did not change him he still sinned, so if his will was free, then why could he not do,…[Read more]

EDJ……..NO I DID NOT USE A WILL THAT WAS FREE because no such will exists, I USED A WILL THAT WAS INFLUENCED, by my mind to answer your false assumptions.

Denying what the apostles Paul and John has said about sin being still in us, is a denying of the truth by a decieved mind, as far as i am concerned . So do you also believe you are…[Read more]

Kerwin…….GOD HAS COCLUDED “ALL” UNDER SIN, THAT HE MIGHT HAVE MERCY ON ALL. IF WE COULD SELFWILL OURSELVES OUT OF SINNING , THERE WOULD OBVISELY BE NO NEED FOR THE SACRIFFICE OF JESUS, WHY WOULD I NEED GOD TO “WORK” in me both to “WILL” AND DO OF “HIS” GOOD PLEASURE, if i could freely will it myself?

All SO-CALLED free willers are EGOTISTIC…[Read more]

EDJ……..NO i believe Like the APOSTLE PAUL, THAT GOOD THING I WOULD DO I DON’T DO, BUT THAT THING I WOULD NOT DO THAT I DO, O WRETCHED MAN THAT I AM WHO CAN DELIVER ME FROM THIS BODY OF DEATH, SO SIN IS STILL PRESENT, BECAUSE TO WILL IS I HAVE NOT COMPLETELY DIED YET TO SIN that dwels in my body.. IF YOU SAY YOU HAVE, YOU PROVE YOURSELF a LIAR…[Read more]

Edj…..So you say you no longer sin right, then this scripture must apply to you,

1 John 1:8….”If we say we have no sin, we decieve ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”

peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene

Edj…..So you say you no longer sin right, then this scripture must apply it you,

1 John 1:8….”If we say we have we say we have no sin, we decieve ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”

peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene

Kerwin……..if the minds is held captive, so is the will. No will works by itself apart from the mind. It is the mind that makes upour will. TELL me this why did PAUL SAY “I FIND NO GOOD THING IN MY FLESH, BECAUSE TO “WILL” IS PRESENT.” Why did PAUL relate his will as not a good thing.

REMEMBER WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT WILLS HERE BUT “FREE”…[Read more]