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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin……we keep going around in circles. Here is another site that you go to …God’s Golden Knight…maybe T8 CAN CHECK IT OUT ALSO, SEENING IT IS FROM New Zealand.
The nerosecientist who made the findings said it proves there is no freewills taking place because tbe mind was already predesposed to make that decision it makes, and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin. …..your will is the product of you minds thinking, and what is in your mind has been placed there by you thoughts comming from the spirits working in you, nothing free about it. A will is the after product of that process, so how could it be actually free itself, again i am not saying we do not have liberty to express our captivated…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin…….whats working in the mind of that person is what is controlling his wants and desires, so his will is never free of what is effecting his mind. The will is the product of his mind so it “itself” is not free, as many assume.
We are CAUSED TO WILL, what we will, by the thoughts of our minds. Those thoughts are put there from the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin……yes, that is what i am saying, and those personal desires are a result of the spirit or spirits that are working in our minds. Rather it is of God or the world, and that is what forges our wills, NOTHING FREE ABOUT IT. People get mixed up by thinking because we have “LIBERTY” to excercise those working forces within us, means that the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin…… no a man makes a decision by whats influencing him the most, before he even makes that choice, and if it is evil the natural consequences is what happens to him. That consequence takes place with good he does or evil, when mankind chose, by the “INFLUENCING of Satan to experience (know) good and evil, it tied his life to the results…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin…… no a man makes a choice by whats influencing him the most, before he even makes that choice, and if it is evil the natural consequences is what happens to him. That consequence takes place with good he does or evil, when mankind chose, by the “INFLUENCING of Satan to experience (know) good and evil, it tied his life to the results of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin…… no a man makes a choice by whats influencing him the most, before he even makes that choice, and if it is evil the natural consequences is what happens to him. That consequence takes place with good he does or evil, when mankind chose to experience (know) good and evil, it tied his life to the results of them. But the Cause oft hose…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin……first ofall i never said a manmake a choice,what i said wasthatchoice was notbasedonawillthat was FREE, YOUR CONFUSINGTHE ISSUE.
ALL WRONG HAS A JUST RECOMPENSE,NO MATTER WHO CHOSES IT. JUST AS ALL RIGHT CHOICES ALSO HAS A JUST RECOMPENSE, QUSTION IS WHAT IS DETERMINING THAT CHOICE IS IT THE PERSON HIMSELF OR WHAT IS INFLUENCING HIS…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
T8…..tell us what was the difference between the first ADAM, AND THE SECOND ADAM JESUS, WAS IT JUST A FREEWILL CHOICE, OR GOD HIMSELF BEING IN THE SECOND Adam Jesus, how could God predict exacrly what he would do, if it’s all up to a freewill, and how could God ever be sure Jesus would never turn against him, after all according to you he will…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Carmillia…..YES God did first love you and brought you to JESUS, inorder to forgive you your sins,. You were predestened by God , who works, “ALL THINGS”, according to the council of, “HIS WILL”, NOT OUR WILLS.
Haven’t you noticed how T8 and kerwin and others here, never address the actual scriptures as they are written about this subject, but…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin……your adding to scriptures all kinds of things which they do not specifically say. No where does scripture say we chose God or JESUS BY THE ACT OF OWR OWN FREEWILLS. I HAVE POSTED SCRIPTURE AFTER SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS WE ARE “CAUSED” TO CHOSE GOD AND HIS WAYS. EVEN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MAN PROVES THAT POINT. There could not be a single…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin……your adding to scriptures all kinds of things which they do not specifically say. No where does scripture say we chose God or JESUS BY THE ACT OD OWN OWN FREEWILL. I HAVE POSTED SCRIPTURE AFTER SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS WE ARE “CAUSED” TO CHOSE GOD AND HIS WAYS. EVEN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MAN PROVES THAT POINT. There could not be a single…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin……. Jesus plainly said “NO” MAN “CAN”, come unto me “EXCEPT THE FATHER DRAW (Greek DRAG) him, so HOW does a person OWN CHOICE fit into that scripture.
Kerwin, what you are not truly excepting scriptures as they are written, but adding your own personal thoughts into the text. Please let the texts as they are written, be excepted, they…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Carmillia…….i am not chosen because i chose God, he chose me, he created me this way i did not create myself. As far as knowing what we will do the next day goes, consider this scripture.
Job 33:15-17… In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep, falls upon men, in slumbering upon the bed; Then he (GOD) opens the ears of men, and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Carmillia…….i am not chosen because i chose God he chose me, hecreated me this way i did not create myself. As far asknowing what we will do the next day goes, consider this scripture.
Job 33:15-17… In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep, falls upon men, in slumbering upon the bed; Then he opens the ears of men, and seals,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
T8……THE SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD ABIDING IN ME LEADS ME TO DO IT. BUT YOU PROBELY DON’T UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU SAY IT IS NOT GENUINELY, BUT THE LOVE OF GOD THAT HAS BEEN SPREAD AROUND IN MY HEART SAYS DIFFERENTLY. NOW HAVE BECOME A JUDGE OF MY HEART ALSO T8? MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU,
peace and love to you and yours……………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
T8……NOW YOU FINDLY HAVE TOLD THE TRUTH, ABOUT YOUR AND MY WILLS. YOU MAY NOT WANT TO BECOME FREE FROM YOUR SELF DRIVEN WILL, THAT YOU MISTAKINLY THINK IS FREE, I ON THE OTHER HAND BY THE EFFECTUAL WORKING OF GOD’S SPIRIT, WANT TO BE EVEN MORE CAPTIVATED BY MY GOD AND HIS WILL, EVEN TO THE POINT THAT I COULD DO EVERY THING THE WAY HE WOULD, I…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin……you say if we chose not to harden our hearts as if we are in control of our hearts, right?,then why did God, say this then?
Eze 11:18-19…And I WILL GIVE them one heart, and I WILL PUT A NEW SPIRIT WITHIN YOU; AND I will take the STONY HEART, out of there flesh, and give them a heart of flesh. WHY? For what reason will he do this?,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 8 months ago
Kerwin……you say if we chose not toharden our hearts as if we are in cintrol of our hearts, right?,then why did God, say this then.
Eze 11:18-19…And I WILL GIVE them one heart, and I WILL PUT A NEW SPIRIT WITHIN YOU; AND i willtake the STONY HEART, out ofthere flesh, and give them a heart of flesh. WHY? V 19…THAT THEY MAY WALK IN MY…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic What is the tribulation for? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 8 months ago
Wakeup, i believe we are now in tribulation, and some are experiencing great tribulation even to the loss of their lives. But yes i do believe in the great tribulation that is comming also, specally at the end of the 1000 year regin ofJESUS CHRIST AND THE SAINTS on this earth.
As Far as the dross of silver goes, all dross in metals are the…[Read more]
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